WARNING - DVLA online car tax fraud
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Which is worse as anybody can steal your wallet and go on a shopping spree as the signatures where never checked
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thats a good point best if we all drive around with NO taxI just hope you don't get mugged then! LOL(Joke)
wiil be safer we will have a police escort every where we goBest hope that nobody writes down your bank account details off the cheque and sets up a standing order like poor old clarkson.
Besides, I dont think personal cheques will be around for an awful lot longer.
True BUT credit card scamming is far more desireable and convenient for crooks and is easy money to them opposed to setting up standing orders which can be traced more easily opposed to credit card fraud though.
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no it is not.
your account details can be used to obtain credit for thousands of pounds in loans and can be used to divert you own funds into another account
your account details can be used to obtain credit for thousands of pounds in loans and can be used to divert you own funds into another account
280gee
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Best hope that nobody writes down your bank account details off the cheque and sets up a standing order like poor old clarkson.
Besides, I dont think personal cheques will be around for an awful lot longer.
FWIW; Cheques are certainly not going away in France for some time as they are regarded very highly. Reason probably is that if you write a cheque without the funds present to pay it that's you banned from holding a bank account for up to ten years! The same applies to going overdrawn without authorisation.
hawk20
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That is nor the real point. If the signature was a forgery the bank had to pay for the monies stolen from you. And it is easy to prove forgeries. IMO the banks wanted rid of signatures because they carried the losses. With PIN numbers you have to prove that you didn't type in the number, How do you do that? My neighbour had £4,000 taken out of his account via ATM's in Slough. But he has never been to Slough. Couldn't convince Barclays.
glojo
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Going off on a tangent,
Did anyone else see the consumer program where cheques were submitted to all the main banks with false signatures, not only false but names like Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck! The cheques were not checked, they went through the system and the money paid out!
I suppose that if we wanted to make a few bob we could write the cheques out to ourselves for cash and then deny doing it
John
Did anyone else see the consumer program where cheques were submitted to all the main banks with false signatures, not only false but names like Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck! The cheques were not checked, they went through the system and the money paid out!
I suppose that if we wanted to make a few bob we could write the cheques out to ourselves for cash and then deny doing it
John
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well i do not know your neighbour and with all due respect there are a lot of dubious guys too scamming aroundso you can not always blame the banks.
Chip and pin has worked for me all over europe and the only time i was in an identitiy case,my card was stolen from the post office mail and used in a shop wih a signed signature.
your neighbours card may have been cloned with a camera and a reader machine installed in any ATM
hawk20
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Yes but what the banks hated about cheques was that if the signature was forged the banks lost money not the customer.Going off on a tangent,
Did anyone else see the consumer program where cheques were submitted to all the main banks with false signatures, not only false but names like Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck! The cheques were not checked, they went through the system and the money paid out!
I suppose that if we wanted to make a few bob we could write the cheques out to ourselves for cash and then deny doing it
John
01goodwina
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ok so i might have cut a few bits and moved some words around but its probly no a good idea to say things like this on an open public forum...
never know were PC Plod is.
glojo
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If my cheque clearly displays my name as Mr Harold Hawk and the signature reads: donald Duck then is that a forgery? Following complaints from TV viewers the consumer prgram done exactly that and submitted these cheques to all the mainstream banks. Every single cheque was accepted by the tellers and all cheques were actioned with the funds moving accounts.
I cannot see cheques being made redundant anytime soon as they are an important part of any small business but we need a more modern secure why of signing them. What about a pressure type pad that can read a finger print? The owner writes the cheque and then this pad then somehow records the finger print? Then when the cheque enters the banking system the cheque is scanned for the correct finger print. Then to keep our paranoid big brother fanatics..... If the finger print highlights the person is a wanted criminal we can then arrest them
Just an off the cuff suggestion.Regards
John
hawk20
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Glojo cheques are totally secure now. If it is not your signature on your cheque that is the banks bad luck if they cash it - not yours. That's why banks like cards and PIN numbers. You get lumbered unless you can prove you did not use the PIN nor let anyone you know do so. Very hard to prove that.
Me too...
Hi Chriswt,
I'm glad you posted for one! I renewed online with the DVLA just after xmas. I checked my statement and found a fraudulent transaction for over £750 from "Paypal Happybabies". I think that you are right that this is indeed the DVLA as it's just too big a coincidence... Also to note is the fact that this is the ONLY online transaction i have EVER done with my card and the fraud happens 2 days later! Also, I NEVER let the card out of my sight or let anyone else handle it. I have spoken to my credit card company who have agreed it is fraud and were very furtive when I mentioned the DVLA... I suspect a whitewash.
Hi Chriswt,
I'm glad you posted for one! I renewed online with the DVLA just after xmas. I checked my statement and found a fraudulent transaction for over £750 from "Paypal Happybabies". I think that you are right that this is indeed the DVLA as it's just too big a coincidence... Also to note is the fact that this is the ONLY online transaction i have EVER done with my card and the fraud happens 2 days later! Also, I NEVER let the card out of my sight or let anyone else handle it. I have spoken to my credit card company who have agreed it is fraud and were very furtive when I mentioned the DVLA... I suspect a whitewash.
npuk
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We always tax our cars online and by credit card. Card has not been cancelled and no fraudlent transactions.
When you pay online the payment is processed by their chosen payment gateway so DVLA staff would not get the card details.
When you pay online the payment is processed by their chosen payment gateway so DVLA staff would not get the card details.
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maybe they have updated the system or caught the employee(s) in the 2 years this thread was started....
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maybe they have updated the system or caught the employee(s) in the 2 years this thread was started....
If it were anywhere esle Derek I'd agree, but the DVLA, we can but only hope
Knowing one of the guys responsible for the IT service @ DVLA (through some associated consultancy this year), I gave him a quick bell. Spike's summary was quite correct - the fee-paying part is handled outside of DVLA.
