Whats your strategy for year 2030 / ban of ICE vehicles?

[MikeInWimbledon]

How's the ride quality from those i3 wheels, now that you're a few months on?

Precise and pleasurable? Or still too bumpy?

 

[Mactech]

Exactly. It's the comfort and space that matters.

The i3 is not short of either comfort, space or pace in the passenger area, but he boot is on the small side for two dogs.

20 minutes in the motorway services? Not so much.

About 17 mins more than I would ever want to spend....
I can't remember the last time I paid their inflated fuel prices, and I'm no fan of their food but occasionally a leak is required...

The ride on trunk roads is absolutely fine, but I still have 3 weeks to wait for the arrival of the rear Michelin tyres. I'll update after fitting all 4 tyres.

 

[BTB 500]

Don't think I've ever used motorway services other than brimming the tank just before the Eurotunnel (450 more motorway miles to go on the other side of the channel).

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I beg to differ. If you look more closely at those figures, you'll see the majority of uptake is from company's, buying cars for employees with the associated tax break it brings. In the wider scheme of things, people are not spending their own money on EV's, so the figures are skewed.

But relatively few people buy new cars. I wouldn’t be surprised if the split of business and private purchases/leases are similar to what they’ve always been, but the proportion of EVs is much much greater within for businesses. That’s necessary and deliberate to create a stick of used EVs for the largely-private secondhand market:

 

[markjay]

Yes, of course we could have taken the EV, as we proved a couple of weeks ago on a 300 mile round trip. But I really have no mind to sit around mid journey in a motorway service area or worse. The comfort and 700 mile range of the Macan just make it so much less of a hassle....and there is more room for the dogs

Blyme, you're getting 40mpg+ from the Macan on Motorway runs? That's not half bad! Is that the 3.0L Diesel engine?

 

[markjay]

Don't think I've ever used motorway services other than brimming the tank just before the Eurotunnel (450 more motorway miles to go on the other side of the channel).

I do use motorway services, but then I go into the shops, buy a hot or cold drink, use the toilets etc. I agree that it's not the same as sitting in your EV while it's hooked up to the charger... Luckily I didn't need to do it yet (i.e. I didn't make a journey long enough yet that required charging en-route).

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

The glories of old age.

Wise enough not to eat the crap or drink even Starbucks coffee,

but decrepit enough to need to split up a four hour drive with a comfort break, a stretch and a few steps.

What’s that line? He died peacefully in his sleep, as he would always have wanted. Not screaming, like his passengers.

 

[Darrell]

I don’t do long journeys by car. Simples.

 

[Mactech]

I don’t do long journeys by car. Simples.

But if you lived in the middle of nowhere and are normally headed to somewhere far away (likely to be in the middle of nowhere, like race circuits) there is little choice, unless you have perfected matter transfer....

 

[Darrell]

But if you lived in the middle of nowhere and are normally headed to somewhere far away (likely to be in the middle of nowhere, like race circuits) there is little choice, unless you have perfected matter transfer....

Yes perhaps, but I don’t and there’s a reason for that.

 

[Mactech]

Blyme, you're getting 40mpg+ from the Macan on Motorway runs? That's not half bad! Is that the 3.0L Diesel engine?

Simples! It is the 3 litre wood burner, yes.

 

[Mactech]

Yes perhaps, but I don’t and there’s a reason for that.

Just as there is a very good reason I have not ventured inside the M25 (but for 2 special occasions) for more than a decade....

 

[SmartAmg]

I don’t do long journeys by car. Simples.

An EV is ideal for you then, Darrell?

 

[Darrell]

An EV is ideal for you then, Darrell?

Where would I charge it and they’re expensive to buy.

Oh and most importantly….. why??

 

[SmartAmg]

Where would I charge it and they’re expensive to buy.

Oh and most importantly….. why??

But apart from that.

 

[REDCAPPER]

Yes but that Tesla is (most likely) plugged into a 3-pin socket in the living room, charging at 3kW... You just can't prevent people from doing that (unless you legislate against it the employ wardens or marshalls to enforce it). And there's no way that the utility company can even know about it.

The software in the car can be checked to see how much charge has been input or even just apply tax to the number of miles covered. There is no way the government are going to lose out on all the fuel duty they are currently getting when and if EVs become the high volume road users.

 

[markjay]

... just apply tax to the number of miles covered....

Personally, I think that's the way forward.

 

[markjay]

The software in the car can be checked to see how much charge has been input...

Some people generate their own electricity, this raises the question whether home-generated electricity should be taxed, perhaps in the same way that Diesel fuel filtered at home from used cooking oil is taxed.

 

[markjay]

Are EVs cheaper to service and maintain than petrol and diesel cars?

There is a general consensus that electric vehicles have cheaper servicing and maintenance costs than petrol and diesel cars because there are fewer moving parts to go wrong.

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