WTD: W210 300 TD vehicle for project.

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  1. ChasesDragons

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    Hello all,
    I need to locate an E Class W210 running a 300 Turbo Diesel for a devious little project.:bannana:

    The condition of the body and bits is unimportant - I might even be able to use an accident damaged or written off vehicle. BUT the engine and associated components should be absolutely perfect. The vehicle can be lifted away if need be. It must be legal and UK registered.

    Can you contact me if you have one or know of one for sale? I dont think I can use pm as I have a low post count from lurking. My email is asuran25 on hotmail.


    Thank You
     
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    It wouldnt involve a mechanical pump and a big turbo would it? :eek:

    Or are you going to be boring and shoehorn it into the landrover? :D
     
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    Actually, it MIGHT eventually involve a mechanical pump and a big Turbo....pending my locating a bank with suitably lax security.....:rolleyes:

    Uhuh, Landies get 200tdi engines in my book or an earlier OM606. I dont think a modern little daisy from an E300 would fair for long up a green lane :bannana:

    I like the way you are thinking, I suspect that I am in the right site :devil::D
     
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    Oh good news, donor found. The next step begins....
     
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    The OM606 is what powers a 300Turbodiesel.
     
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    Bloody Hell that was quick. Keep us posted and I don't remember saying welcome to the forum. So just in case I forgot my manners. Welcome to the forum, you sound like our kind of guy.
     
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    Thank You John, I might have mixed up OM617 and OM606, trying to show off to Carat :p

    I am just the idiot with the potty ideas, the person with the knowledge and "Cojones" to help me realise em would be Nigel Ball from Devon way.

    Will keep you all upto date!

    Udhi
     
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    Just exactly what I'm in the process of right now. Got the 300turbo engine and the pump from a non-turbo. Some other things are different and might need changed depending on your final use. The water pump and power steering pump pulleys are smaller on the turbo engine but the sump is bigger. Vacuum pump on the turbo has no small nipple for the gearbox modulator pipes and the throttle mech for the pull cable is missing so if you're going to hook it to a four speed auto that's something to be re-engineered. I'm going the manual gearbox route.
     
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    I have been recommended manual 5 gears. I will stick to that.
    At this very moment, I dont know if I would try the superturbodiesel stuff - I find it a bit scary. I will get the E300D in and drive it around before I when I get bored and well-funded again.

    Hope you are keeping an entertainment thread going on your project and good luck.
     
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    Without boost it won't fuel up as much but is it still running the original injectors, if so it shouldn't smoke.
    In addition it does smoke at 1:10 when he revs it a bit harder. It's not under any load so perhaps lack of smoke isn't that surprising.
     
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    Niiice. I would be so happy with about 250 - 300bhp. Nice cruiser with spectacular overtaking power when provoked.
     
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    DM. I don't understand where the 'boost' comes from. This is the electric pump off the 606.962 with the end plate removed. The only control in there is the servo motor to the rack plunger. How does that provide extra boost if the turbo needs it? I thought all it did was act as a throttle turning the rack as reqd by the accelerator pedal. The numbers are there for another purpose but # 1 is the rack plunger.

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    He wouldnt be any relation to martyn ball per chance?
     
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    All any boost control does is push the rack more as more fuel is required. in the case of electric pumps, the ECU decides more fuel is required so supplies more power tot eh linear motor to push the rack plunger more.

    The engine in the video has a mechanical pump fitted.

    1 is the rack control plunger
    2 is the rack position sensor
    3 is the speed sensor and timing pin
     
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    I'm mystified by this. If the servo pushes the rack in further as a response to boost it is surely the same-same as the driver giving it more throttle (in effect the car will accelerate :confused:). Also what does '3' 'speed sensor' act on? There is no pick-up in there that I can attribute to that function.

    Any idea why the pic has turned on it's side. It's the correct way up in Photobucket. Bloody computers. :dk:
     
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    Tom is the guy for the elements :)
    I whish I had the money to get them form him...
     
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    Ah, sorry, I was forgetting this setup uses the crank sensor for speed measurement, others use the diesel pump shaft speed.

    As the servo pushes more the engine torque increases due to increased fuelling. If the engine load remains the same it will accelerate, if the load increases the additional torque will just balance the load. e.g. going up a hill.

    Boost control is effectively doing what the accelerator does, but automatically and as a result of boost pressure.
     
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    Oh Yus! :D

    I have inflicted two projects on him thus far.

     

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