nigel cross
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Clearing out Dads garage and there are loads of ww2 mostly Lanc instruments, dials and odds and sods.
Where is the best place to sell them part from Ebay?
Where is the best place to sell them part from Ebay?
WW2 aircraft instruments
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Get them looking the best you can, take some photos and email some of the Auction houses that advertise in the classic car or aviation magazines.
They may advise you of upcoming auctions with similar items.
They may advise you of upcoming auctions with similar items.
There's a magazine called 'Flypast' that you can get in WH Smith ... you might well get some ideas from the ads in that.
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I would have though anywhere other than ebay for something like this as recommended specialist publications and auction houses 
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Phone up Duxford and tell them what you have. They may come out and help.
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I think that they probably would come out, but would try and talk me into giving them the bits
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Mount them up nicely Nigel and keep them as a family treasure.....
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Do not be tempted to clean or polish them before getting an expert appraisal.
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Maybe not. Their interest is really about preservation. They will always try to come to the best agreement to meet that end. You can always decline if not happy.
As said above. Make not attempts at cleaning.
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There are a couple of beaches in Scotland that are badly contaminated by radioactivity caused by the MOD burying WW2 aircraft instruments in the sand. Not that you'd be licking them clean of course but....just saying 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23098001
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23098001
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only trouble is swmbo wouldn't give them houseroom, and I must have 60 plus bits so would take up a whole wall
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Do it anyway and lend it out to a Museum. I don't think your Dad collected those to be sold off sometime....??
Otherwise I am sure she would let you have a small space somewhere to hang a few pieces, maybe swap them over now and then.
Otherwise I am sure she would let you have a small space somewhere to hang a few pieces, maybe swap them over now and then.
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When I was a young lad... my then girlfriend's father served in the RAF during the war, though he passed away at a rather young age and before I met her.
She gave me some of the stuff he left behind - and I remember one of the items was a set of goggles with different colour lenses in an RAF pouch. Red was for 'night vision'.
I kept it for a while but lots track it at some point when moving house (that was 35 years ago...). I doubt it's worth much, but I do regret losing it.
She gave me some of the stuff he left behind - and I remember one of the items was a set of goggles with different colour lenses in an RAF pouch. Red was for 'night vision'.
I kept it for a while but lots track it at some point when moving house (that was 35 years ago...). I doubt it's worth much, but I do regret losing it.
I had a boxed reflector gunsight that got lost somehow
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WW2 LUMINOUS DIALS will contain Radium 226 which is both an Alpha and Gamma emitter. Take expert advice before doing anything with them = Your local Environment Agency (EA) for England and Wales, Scottish
Environment Protection Agency (SEPA) for Scotland and Environment and Heritage Service for Northern Ireland (EHSNI) You will probably be breaking the law by selling them. If you are lucky they will take them off your hands for disposal.
Environment Protection Agency (SEPA) for Scotland and Environment and Heritage Service for Northern Ireland (EHSNI) You will probably be breaking the law by selling them. If you are lucky they will take them off your hands for disposal.
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I wondered why the garage had a glow at night
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http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/atta...ent.php?attachmentid=38956&stc=1&d=1378748612
Just a couple to have a look at. The german piece of kit dad said was from a Henkel HE 115 to which there are no complete ones left
Just a couple to have a look at. The german piece of kit dad said was from a Henkel HE 115 to which there are no complete ones left
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This from the HSE from 10 years ago. Definitive interpretation of legislation is scarce but this is what I could find.
VINTAGE AIRCRAFT RESTORATION
Recent inspection activity in the aerospace and industrial radiography industry has revealed that those engaged in the restoration of vintage civil and military aircraft are largely unaware of the radiological risks involved in their work.
Many aircraft, but mainly those built before circa 1950, have instrument dials luminised with radium paint. Dose rates on contact with these instruments can sometimes exceed 200 μSv h-1 β/γ (e.g. Seafire fuel gauge) and dose rates in the pilot's position may be as high as 15 μSv h-1 β/γ (e.g. North American Harvard). If the instruments are taken apart there may also be a significant contamination risk and, in enclosed cockpits or storage areas, radon exposure may be significant.
A risk of significant radiation exposure to those restoring, maintaining and flying such aircraft, and those visiting museum cockpit exhibitions, therefore exists although, for the most part, those carrying out such activities are unaware of those risks.
The HSE will be exploring ways to further publicise and research the problem. In the meantime the following steps can be taken to reduce likely exposures to levels which are as low as reasonably practicable. In all cases, however, the advice of a suitable radiation protection adviser should be sought.
1. A risk assessment should be undertaken and a radiation survey of the instruments and cockpit should be performed. Where dose rates in excess of, say, 2.5 μSvh-1 β/γ exist at the pilot's position, steps should be taken to reduce radiation levels and/or prohibit access by members of the public. Simple measures such as replacing the instrument glass with a thicker variety (provided there is no likelihood of contamination), or the replacement of switches etc. with newer types, may be reasonably practicable.
2. When not in use or installed in the aircraft, instruments should be stored in sealed plastic bags. Checks for loose contamination should be undertaken when the instrument is overhauled or fitted in the aircraft. Where large numbers of instruments are stored together checks on radon levels will be appropriate.
3. When maintaining or overhauling instruments care should be taken to avoid the spread of contamination or possible personal contamination. They should only be handled when wearing appropriate gloves and, where there is evidence of paint flaking, a simple dust mask should also be worn.
4. If it is decided to replace the instrument and to dispose of the radium luminised item, a specialist company must be used for the disposal of radioactive waste. There are only a small number of such companies operating in the UK, these include: Safeguard International Ltd and Active Collection Bureau (01795 437001). There are currently some difficulties over the disposal of radium in the UK and some delay in disposing of the item may be experienced, and it may be necessary to store the items in the meantime.
VINTAGE AIRCRAFT RESTORATION
Recent inspection activity in the aerospace and industrial radiography industry has revealed that those engaged in the restoration of vintage civil and military aircraft are largely unaware of the radiological risks involved in their work.
Many aircraft, but mainly those built before circa 1950, have instrument dials luminised with radium paint. Dose rates on contact with these instruments can sometimes exceed 200 μSv h-1 β/γ (e.g. Seafire fuel gauge) and dose rates in the pilot's position may be as high as 15 μSv h-1 β/γ (e.g. North American Harvard). If the instruments are taken apart there may also be a significant contamination risk and, in enclosed cockpits or storage areas, radon exposure may be significant.
A risk of significant radiation exposure to those restoring, maintaining and flying such aircraft, and those visiting museum cockpit exhibitions, therefore exists although, for the most part, those carrying out such activities are unaware of those risks.
The HSE will be exploring ways to further publicise and research the problem. In the meantime the following steps can be taken to reduce likely exposures to levels which are as low as reasonably practicable. In all cases, however, the advice of a suitable radiation protection adviser should be sought.
1. A risk assessment should be undertaken and a radiation survey of the instruments and cockpit should be performed. Where dose rates in excess of, say, 2.5 μSvh-1 β/γ exist at the pilot's position, steps should be taken to reduce radiation levels and/or prohibit access by members of the public. Simple measures such as replacing the instrument glass with a thicker variety (provided there is no likelihood of contamination), or the replacement of switches etc. with newer types, may be reasonably practicable.
2. When not in use or installed in the aircraft, instruments should be stored in sealed plastic bags. Checks for loose contamination should be undertaken when the instrument is overhauled or fitted in the aircraft. Where large numbers of instruments are stored together checks on radon levels will be appropriate.
3. When maintaining or overhauling instruments care should be taken to avoid the spread of contamination or possible personal contamination. They should only be handled when wearing appropriate gloves and, where there is evidence of paint flaking, a simple dust mask should also be worn.
4. If it is decided to replace the instrument and to dispose of the radium luminised item, a specialist company must be used for the disposal of radioactive waste. There are only a small number of such companies operating in the UK, these include: Safeguard International Ltd and Active Collection Bureau (01795 437001). There are currently some difficulties over the disposal of radium in the UK and some delay in disposing of the item may be experienced, and it may be necessary to store the items in the meantime.