Or... ARE YOU STILL ON THAT BL--DY FORUM?? So do you get that sort of abuse from SWMBO...? When I protest that all important things in the universe are discussed from tomatoes on wheels to Shadowline, from electric hedge cutters to wedding cakes, (and yes, occasionally Mercedes ownership!) i get that pained look and a strange rolling of the eyes. I'm quite mystified by this. Can anyone explain??.