2017 GLC 74000 mls is it too much to

[mercmancdi]

2017 glc 2.1 / 168 bhp /. 74000 mls full history
1 owner , is this too many mls too quickly for a small engine in heavy car ,
Any owners of same model are they getting 40 mpg normal runs.
(hope this is posted in correct place , please move if wrong. )
thanks.

 

[SteveGmilne]

With full service history i would say it should be fine but it is high for its age.

Dont have any experience with this model but had many high milage cars over the years 240k audi, 380k golf current mercedes e320cdi has 228k i never worry about miles if i know its been looked after and the price is right.

 

[markjay]

If it has the 2,143cc engine then it will be the older OM651.

If it has the 1,950cc engine then it will be the newer OM654.

I any event, there two engines are the most common 4-Cyl Diesels made by MB, and will be shared across several car models. So there will be quite a few members here with experience of this engine (though not necessarily in a GLC).

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Should be good for a couple of hundred thousand miles, if maintained properly.

Motorway miles don't take the same toll as town or B road miles.

But what's the right price for it, compared to a normal four year old car on 35,000 miles ?

 

[BPD07]

From trying to sell a highish mileage car earlier his year, and looking at price comparatives on Autotrader, I sort of arrived at the sum of between £500/£1000 for each 10k miles off book price. It’s generic though.

Dealers will assure you on selling that the Motor / drivetrain is good for high mileage but will chip you hard on trade in if it’s above expected mileage. Also, there is a mindset (lessening but still out there) that assumes cars are shot/worn out if they go over 100k miles - probably a carry over from Cortina/Cavalier days.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

From trying to sell a highish mileage car earlier his year, and looking at price comparatives on Autotrader, I sort of arrived at the sum of between £500/£1000 for each 10k miles off book price. It’s generic though.

Dealers will assure you on selling that the Motor / drivetrain is good for high mileage but will chip you hard on trade in if it’s above expected mileage. Also, there is a mindset (lessening but still out there) that assumes cars are shot/worn out if they go over 100k miles - probably a carry over from Cortina/Cavalier days.

It is not only wear on the engine. There will be 74,000 miles of wear and tear on the trims, finishes, seats, door handles, switches, seat belt, etc.

Say an average speed of 40mph. That is over 1800 hours with someone sitting on and farting into the seat.

 

[MrGreedy]

Rorywquin makes a good point.
I can only afford to buy second hand, but condition and service history is everything to me. Last year I bought my E350, and the previous owner of 6 years (who I bought from privately) clearly loved his car. He had a stack or receipts for parts and servicing, the spare wheel well looked like it had just come from the factory and apart from a few very tiny external blemishes, on the inside the only sign it has done 85k miles is some very very slight scuffing on the driver's bolster. I'll get that sorted in due course.

I looked at loads of Es with similar mileage give or take 20k, and so many were very tired. It's hard work or a lot of money (or both) to correct that abuse.

As for the mileage, I wouldn't be too worried with 75k miles, as it either has likely been mostly motorway, or the car has been used as a taxi or Amazon parcel drop off. Either way, you need proof of correct servicing ON TIME.

If it has stop start, the engine timing mechanism has been known to fail typically from 100k miles (but can be lower, can be higher). Listen for a rattle for a few seconds on start up which indicates it's starting to fail and need replacement. Turn off stop start for every journey helps protect the timing components (or more correctly, doesn't put lots and lots of straining start loads on the system).

 

[markjay]

It is not only wear on the engine. There will be 74,000 miles of wear and tear on the trims, finishes, seats, door handles, switches, seat belt, etc.

Say an average speed of 40mph. That is over 1800 hours with someone sitting on and farting into the seat.

True, though I would expect such wear to be time-rated, rather than mileage-related.

Put differently, (say) five occupants sitting in a car for one hour will cause the same amount of wear regardless of whether they travel a distance of 7 miles at 7mph in start-stop city traffic, or 70 miles at 70mph on the motorway.

But, because cars are rarely using in either extremity, in most cases the higher mileage means more wear.

There will be a difference in wear though between a car owned by a travelling salesperson driving mostly on his own, and a family car used for trips to theme parks and holidays etc, for example.

In conclusion... estimating cabin trim wear based on mileage alone can be inconclusive - I would suggest that this is always decided on condition only - check with your own eyes.

 

[markjay]

From trying to sell a highish mileage car earlier his year, and looking at price comparatives on Autotrader, I sort of arrived at the sum of between £500/£1000 for each 10k miles off book price. It’s generic though.

Dealers will assure you on selling that the Motor / drivetrain is good for high mileage but will chip you hard on trade in if it’s above expected mileage. Also, there is a mindset (lessening but still out there) that assumes cars are shot/worn out if they go over 100k miles - probably a carry over from Cortina/Cavalier days.

If the car is to be kept for a number of years (3 at the very least), and the expected annual mileage is low, then buying a high-mileage car (in good condition) isn't a bad strategy.

By the time the car is resold, its mileage will have become average. The saving when buying a newish high-mileage car will always be greater than the potential gain from selling an old car with low mileage, if this makes sense.

 

[Deleted member 126251]

True, though I would expect such wear to be time-rated, rather than mileage-related.

Put differently, (say) five occupants sitting in a car for one hour will cause the same amount of wear regardless of whether they travel a distance of 7 miles at 7mph in start-stop city traffic, or 70 miles at 70mph on the motorway.

But, because cars are rarely using in either extremity, in most cases the higher mileage means more wear.

There will be a difference in wear though between a car owned by a travelling salesperson driving mostly on his own, and a family car used for trips to theme parks and holidays etc, for example.

In conclusion... estimating cabin trim wear based on mileage alone can be inconclusive - I would suggest that this is always decided on condition only - check with your own eyes.

You have misunderstood me.

I was simply pointing (seems poorly) out that if a car has done 74,000 miles there is also a certain about of wear and tear to the rest of the car. >1800 hours of a driver based on my rough guess of an average of 40mph in completing the 74K.

In your example the car will certainly have had someone in the drivers seat for 1 hour. So the wear is time related.

Higher milage = more hours on the road = someone in the drivers seat for all those hours. My observation of high milage cars has been that the drivers seat, steering wheel, pedals, carpets, radio knobs & other controls (e.g. indicator switch) are usually quite worn. People become focused on the mechanics.

I never suggested that a person should estimate cabin trim based on mileage nor did I suggest that anyone should by a car without first inspecting it.

 

[FiveAlive]

Six years ago I bought a 3 year old, 75000 mile ML250 Bluetec diesel as an approved used Mercedes with full service history. I figured that all those miles in such a short time probably meant a lot of business motorway miles - much better than a low mileage car that's only been used for short trips on school and shopping runs - and the car looked as new both inside and outside, even with the Artico 'leather'. As part of the purchase I insisted that the gearbox oil was changed (due at 77500 miles).

At this point I'd love to say that I had many happy miles in that car. I don't do many miles in my 'big' car so my thinking was that a few years later the mileage would be close to normal and I'd have scored a bargain. But 20 miles after I drove it off the forecourt: AdBlue fault. Took it back, they topped up the AdBlue fluid. 20 miles later: AdBlue fault. They replaced part of the AdBlue system. 20 miles later: AdBlue fault. They replaced another part of the AdBlue system. 20 miles later: AdBlue fault. I told them not to give it back until it was fixed, and a week later (two weeks after I'd bought the car) they admitted they were stumped and gave me my money back. I think they then sent it to auction. Hopefully in the six years since then they've figured out how the AdBlue system works.... I took no chances and replaced it with an older car with no AdBlue and, for good measure, no stop/start and real leather.

 

[markjay]

Six years ago I bought a 3 year old, 75000 mile ML250 Bluetec diesel as an approved used Mercedes with full service history. I figured that all those miles in such a short time probably meant a lot of business motorway miles - much better than a low mileage car that's only been used for short trips on school and shopping runs - and the car looked as new both inside and outside, even with the Artico 'leather'. As part of the purchase I insisted that the gearbox oil was changed (due at 77500 miles).

At this point I'd love to say that I had many happy miles in that car. I don't do many miles in my 'big' car so my thinking was that a few years later the mileage would be close to normal and I'd have scored a bargain. But 20 miles after I drove it off the forecourt: AdBlue fault. Took it back, they topped up the AdBlue fluid. 20 miles later: AdBlue fault. They replaced part of the AdBlue system. 20 miles later: AdBlue fault. They replaced another part of the AdBlue system. 20 miles later: AdBlue fault. I told them not to give it back until it was fixed, and a week later (two weeks after I'd bought the car) they admitted they were stumped and gave me my money back. I think they then sent it to auction. Hopefully in the six years since then they've figured out how the AdBlue system works.... I took no chances and replaced it with an older car with no AdBlue and, for good measure, no stop/start and real leather.

Unfortunately any MB Diesel car with EU6 engines can become a money-pit, not just high-milers. Count yourself lucky, you had a narrow escape.

Personally, I wouldn't touch a BlueTec car (at any mileage) with a barge pole, and wouldn't recommend it to anyone, unless it came with an iron-clad warranty that specifically covered also the DPF, AdBlue system, and NOx sensors.

I am well aware that they don't all go wrong, but it's a financial risk I wouldn't want to take.

 

[E55BOF]

I looked at loads of Es with similar mileage give or take 20k, and so many were very tired. It's hard work or a lot of money (or both) to correct that abuse.

Personally, I would suspect that any 'very tired' E-class with 74K, give or take 20K, on the clock, had been clocked at least once.