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Another E63s leaving and the new car is........?

Pondman

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Was an AMG E63s Wagon
Well it’s been a very pleasant interlude between cars the E63s has, but frustration has got the better of me. The E63s is such a mighty motor trapped on a tiny island of fun. It just sits behind the dawdlers at 40-50mph and windows of opportunity are rare and fleeting. Time to reconnect with my inner boy racer and have the fun of tinkering with my new toy to get the perfect balance. I’m sure most of you will feel I’ve gone mad! Yes, mad with frustration being trapped in such a capable car with nowhere to enjoy her full fat capabilities. So I’ve gone for a Zero calorie Red Bull instead ;)
2007 Renault Megane F1 230 33,500 miles in liquid yellow.
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Not directed at your personally (well, not only) but I don’t get people that buy a performance car and complain that they can’t enjoy it fully due to sitting in traffic all day. Or roads being limited to 70mph. Or this or that. Whatever happened to track days, top speed events or quarter mile runs? More power goal? Loyalty to the brand?

You people get bored so easily it’s amazing you even manage to complete the purchase of your new car. Before looking at another one. Enjoy the low powered stuff. A good friend of mine owns a French performance shop if you ever want to put that engine in a Twingo.
 
Wow that is a serious change of direction,well the new car has the added extra your old E63 did not,and that is when the sun shines the new car will go faster I am sure,must admit slightly to bright for me,best of luck.
 
Well it’s been a very pleasant interlude between cars the E63s has, but frustration has got the better of me. The E63s is such a mighty motor trapped on a tiny island of fun. It just sits behind the dawdlers at 40-50mph and windows of opportunity are rare and fleeting.
Maybe you didn't take it to right places?
 
Do we have an emoji for flailing yourself with sharpened wire yet?
 
Nothing against the replacement but they seem like chalk and cheese cars though.

One is a large (E-class) luxury estate car with a powerful engine, the other a FWD French hatchback with a pokey engine.

Of course it will be a hoot to drive on A-roads and track days but then most powerful/sporty cars would too.

Maybe I’d have understood more if you had gone from say an A45 to the Megane, but large estate to hatchback is more of a change than the performance side of things IMHO :)

Anyway - all the best with it and enjoy :cool:
 
I guess that some people, myself included, just like cars, all sorts of cars.

I've owned loads of different types of car over the years although I did buy a string of large saloons over the last decade or so as they suited my business requirements, in hindsight I wish that I had mixed it up a bit. I'm currently driving my first hatch for about 25 years and loving it.

There are other cars apart from AMG.
 
Thanks for the various thoughts thus far. I will write a full explanation of the reasons/decisions for the complete change of heart. It's very interesting to hear what you all think, so keep up the banter and I'll put a full response later tonight
 
Of course - just curious as usually practical reasons dictate our choice of car. An estate car is usually chosen firstly for families/load lugging etc and the engine choice/trim etc being the secondary consideration.

If I could get three kids plus myself and the wife and all the paraphernalia in an SL I may be driving that instead of the E63 wagon :thumb:

An E-class estate and a Megane really are two totally different cars :)
 
Thank's for sharing! As long as you are happy with it that is all that matters :) We all do things for our own reasons and our personal circumstances so fair play to you for making the change, it's not for others to like and at least you are not blinkered to the brand!
Wouldn't have been my choice I must admit as a hot hatch, I would have gone down the VW Golf GTi, R32 route. :cool:
Enjoy and don't forget to wear your baseball cap (or is the correct term 'snap back') the right way, as well as removing your front number plate and placing it strategically on the dash :p
 
I had one of these in Silver for about 3 years from 2008. Fantastic fun on my old commute in North Wales - the diff really pulled the nose into line under power. The electrics had their own gallic charm - occasionally the dash would just go black and the headlight levellers had a mind of their own sometimes. I could quite fancy one as a bit of a trackday toy as they're great value now...
 
Best of luck with your new purchase,,,,
We have a vw mk5 R32 [2007] as our daily for the last 5 years and find it to be a bit of a trail [my wife and i are in our 50s lol] with the drama and keeping it under 30 most of the time,,,
makes me wonder how you will get on with it in that respect?
i imagine its great for track days etc also,,,,,,
 
There was another member on here who went from a C63 to a Golf recently - either a GTi or an R32. I can see the appeal especially if you are into tuning and fettling because tuning up an E63 would produce something with unusable power 95% of the time. I do like the feeling of wringing a car's neck and using all of the power daily, which isn't something you can do in an AMG very often, so I kind of understand your move here. However its a Renault so I think you'll get frustrated with all the problems it will give you. Good luck though.
 
I quite like them as vehicles and I am sure they are incredibly fun to drive...

As stated - as long as you like it!
 
Well here goes;
One of my petrolhead bucket list cars was to own an AMG V8 - Done
Initially the novelty of owning an estate with super car performance was fun, but after a while the novelty wore off. The opportunity to enjoy the performance and make the most of what I owned never really arose. Family and other work commitments didn’t allow for any road trips or track type opportunities. So I’m left lamenting what might have been when given the opportunity. Personally I feel that the “fun” operating window of the E63 starts at 60mph and above which, with the current speed hating/adverse society today, really isn’t feasible to explore, especially on the crowded roads of southern England.

As to those who were wondering if it was a cash flow crisis? NO! it certainly wasn’t, the car was bought outright at the point of purchase. I always monitor closely the sale price of cars which I own so as to not loose too much money on them come resale, I have a depreciating price point when reached, I will decide to sell at and the E63s had reached that point and as a matter of fact, I did rather well on part-ex and came away smiling for once. I also wished to free up some capital to buy the wife’s new family car - Jaguar iPace that is when Jaguar pull their finger out and allow for test drives to occur :wallbash:

When driving the E63s, it was always pleasant, but rarely involving due to its massive capabilities, there in lies the conundrum! I wanted something that was fun, practical, involving, unique and would be a decent investment, i.e. not loose too much money! I did indeed look at the BMW 130i, Golf GTi Edition 30, Golf R32, AUDI S3, Volvo V50, Saab 9-3, MB A200Turbo, MB A45 and others. All were on a downward slope that I didn’t like the look of, or they were just too common, or just too dull! I fancied a frisson of excitement. So the Megane R26 F1 230 offers all of the the things I was after.

It is regarded as one of the best handling hot hatches of its time, it is rare in this colour (by the way it is a fabulous pearlescent yellow, the most sort after colour - the photos don’t do the colour justice unfortunately) especially with the full sticker pack, which this has. It’s a very low mileage example in excellent condition and was a bit of a bargain with more than 10 people chasing it if I didn’t follow through with the purchase. Ok, yes it will let me down at some stage, and yes, it will have electrical gremlins, but the reward for every time you push the start button more than makes up for the slight hesitation of will it or won’t it?

All in all it makes me smile when I drive it and it makes me smile when I look at it. Oh to be back in control of a car again with very little nannying from the electrics, it’s a breath of fresh air. A big PLUS is that now, the values of these Mk2 Megane have started to rise. So if I take good care of her and drive sensible mileage (5-6k is my average personal mileage) it should be a fun and cheap if not free driving experience, here’s hoping!

Prior to buying this I had a Fiat Coupe 20VT Limited Edition for 10 years it was fun, fast and great to look at. I did shows, track days and went round Spa in it. After that it was a Subaru Forester STi - absolutely fabulous to drive, very much in the same vein as the Megane is as it had been track modified, then came the MB C350 CDi Sport Plus, lovely car until the red paint fell off - thanks for that MB! Then I went onto Jaguar XF 3.0TDi V6S Portfolio Sportbrake great car but lacked a personality, then the E63S. Four estates on the trot, the last 3 were autos, although they all had manual modes, I think I’ve just had enough of automated gearboxes for a while and feel the urge to get back some of the control a manual affords. My daily drive is a 2018 diesel Ford Transit and that can also be “fun” on the right road.

So there you are, those are the main reasons for the decision that the time had come for a change. Don’t get me wrong the AMG E63S is a great car, but I just wasn’t able to fulfill its or my imagined potential that it offered.:)
I hope that it brings further happiness to the next owner.

P.S. there are no baseball caps allowed in the car, nor dodgy Pssssst dump valves! ;)
P.P.S MB don’t give a hoot over customer/brand loyalty, so why should we the purchasing public?
 
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