gummi pflege not helping sticking windows?

[philnewmerc]

Hello. I have one of those silly cars with frameless doors so the windows have to drop a centimetre in order to clear the rubber sealing strip. Many people have recommended gummi pflege so before this cold snap I cleaned all the rubbers and generously applied the stuff. It hasn't made a blind bit of difference in an overnight temperature of about -2, ie not exactly Arctic. Obviously I just resorted to the electric kettle. Any other ideas? Or am I using the stuff incorrectly? Oh and my idiotic electric boot once opened, refused to close! I had to drive across town with it open in the snow

 

[Chrishazle]

Expensive alternate to Gummipflege is Krytox, which was what BMW sold to owners to cure the well known leaks on their Eos. On Ebay you can buy a 5ml bottle to try it out.

 

[SmartAmg]

To be be honest, I'm probably the only one on here that thinks Gummipledge isn't all it's cracked up to be. I simply use a Silicone spray. Spray a good dose on a micro fibre cloth and coat all the rubber around the windows, seems to work my Windows never stick with the frost. And also stops the occasional squeaking when the windows are going up and down. As you say only seams to happen with the frameless windows.

 

[JHS]

To be be honest, I'm probably the only one on here that thinks Gummipledge isn't all it's cracked up to be. I simply use a Silicone spray. Spray a good dose on a micro fibre cloth and coat all the rubber around the windows, seems to work my Windows never stick with the frost. And also stops the occasional squeaking when the windows are going up and down. As you say only seams to happen with the frameless windows.

I have said it before, Gummipflege is German for Rubber Care. It is not a brand! Your method is as good as any.

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[C320]

Swissvax Seal Feed. Use it twice when seasons change. Before winter and after winter. Würth also make a good product. Silicone works too but must be non-solvent based to avoid drying quickly and turning the rubber brown over time.

 

[MrGreedy]

I'd also recommend trying a silicon spray into the seals and they a superficial wipe down if they are sticking in the window rubbers.

But gummi pfledge is a rubber care/conditioner, so treating the rubber first is probably a good idea to help keep in supple condition.

I used to use silicon spray based on trial and error before car forums and I've maintained it's use in situations like the one you are talking about. Doesn't seem to have done any obvious harm.

 

[philnewmerc]

Ok thanks all I will try silicone . But is this the dry or wet (oily )silicone?

The Swissvax sounds good but it also sounds like the gummi pflege which though I'm sure is good doesn't prevent frozen seals... Will this one?

Cheers all

 

[MeQ]

I hadn’t even thought about this possible issue until I saw this!

 

[philnewmerc]

I have some treadmill silicone oil, is that ok to use?

Or are we talking dry silicone? (Or dry ptfe?)

Cheers

 

[philnewmerc]

Expensive alternate to Gummipflege is Krytox, which was what BMW sold to owners to cure the well known leaks on their Eos. On Ebay you can buy a 5ml bottle to try it out.

I think, reading around, this seems to be king so I'll get a small bottle many thanks

 

[SpikyMikey]

I think, reading around, this seems to be king so I'll get a small bottle many thanks

A little goes a long way; I got some to cure the creaking door seals on my E91 and I've still got some left. And that was centuries ago (or at least it feels like it)!

 

[philnewmerc]

I shall report back once tested

 

[MrGreedy]

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I'd recommend a silicon spray.

Currently using Wynns cockpit shine, which is probably very gentle compared to some and not a high concentration of silicon (I also use it on my track saw track).

I've used 3in1 silicon spray in the past also.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Professional-Silicone-Lubricant-400/dp/B000297TQM

 

[ALFAitalia]

I really don't think any of these things will help stop ice freezing stuff together much. Gummi fledge and the like are rubber conditioners to stop them shrinking with and, to a lesser degree, lubricate. As said above I used to use it on Mrs AIs rubbish VW EOS. None (AFAIK) claim to act a rubber antifreeze!
If it rains and the water gets in the window gaps and then it drops a chunk below freezing over night, that water will freeze....not much any treatment can do about that. I had to get in the passenger door of my Ranger this morning....minus 4.....drivers door was frozen solid until I got to work!! I have noted that some cars are way more prone to it than others. MY CLK 209 (frameless) used to freeze up all the time........my wife's SLK (equally frameless of course) that we had at the same time never did.....but the door handles used to freeze!!!

 

[philnewmerc]

Yes you're probably right but I will try the silicone and the krytox worth more than myrrh stuff.

As far as claims go, gummipflege definitely claim to stop frozen door seals. I suppose the real answer is frameless doors are not really suitable to be kept outside in this weather.... Oh well

 

[ALFAitalia]

I guess it depends what brand.....my gummipflegde says nothing about that......but as said above it a product type not a brand. Saying you have bought gummipfledge is a bit like saying you have bought some oil.....loads of different types and makes out there.

 

[philnewmerc]

Oh I see. Mine was Liqui Molly as I think it's a good brand.

 

[C320]

Oh I see. Mine was Liqui Molly as I think it's a good brand.

I have used this before with success a long time ago. It lasted around a month at a time. As when I washed the car. I cleaned top window edge and seals. That may have removed some product so I was topping it up.

 

[JHS]

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[ray_hennig]

I'd recommend a silicon spray.

We use the spray silicon grease wipe on with kitchen paper. On my coupé all seems well. And it comes from Lidl so costs little.

As an aside, I was in a French supermarket looking for silicon grease and I didn't have me glasses on. The helpful young chap led me to another department and recommended a silicon grease. It worked well on some rubber parts that I'd cleaned up before installing in my 300CE. And it has the added benefit of being particularly suited to intimate applications by like-minded men. Should I ever choose that avenue of pleasure!!!

RayH