Scrappage!

[Deleted member 11979]

It's doubtless been mentioned on here several times before but, Mondays is a very sad day, I work opposite a scrapyard, and all the dealers bring over their weekends px scrappage scheme specials, today we had:

1983 lwb land rover in apparently excellent condition
s reg 206
n reg near mint 318i
t reg vw golf cabriolet
s reg alfa 156
tidy 106 roland garros
mini of indeterminate age
micras x 3
clios x 2

All of them looked to be in good condition although they might well have been rotten or terminally mechanically failed, but I doubt it, as if you can afford a new car you can probably afford to look after what you've got!

Such a waste!

 

[IanT]

I couldn't agree more.

While propping up the sales of new cars is good for jobs and industry, I hate to see perfectly serviceable, maintainable cars binned for spurious reasons.

It's not a green argument, as it's clear enough that manufacture is more polluting and energy consuming than running most cars throughout their lives. Something the Prius owners often don't appreciate...

There must be lots of decent W124, 202, 210 etc queueing up for depolluting and cubing now.

Ian.

 

[Deleted member 11979]

It's really interesting actually, there have been no Mercedes that Ihave seen go in on scrappage (you can tell scrappage becasue they drive up and the driver gets lift back in a new small car), in fact, it is rare that any Mercedes turn up there at all, but then it is Devon, and there's not many around down here anyway. It is such a shame, loads of people would really appreaciate these cars! Its intesting, the owner of the yard has a SL55AMG, CLS 320 CDi, Range Rover Sport and Lamborghini something LP640 summink, so, who is really benefitting from scrappage?

 

[Wully]

I always wondered how much the breakers pay for the cars, at the end of the day they will make a few bob parting out a car that's in sometimes good condition.

 

[Seamster15]

They are all being bought up by Polish and lavitian's etc and being sent abroad, or so my local scrappy tells me. They are sending quite a few transporters per week at the moment.

 

[w124coupe]

They are all being bought up by Polish and lavitian's etc and being sent abroad, or so my local scrappy tells me. They are sending quite a few transporters per week at the moment.

I suggest he keeps his head down - fraud on that scale against our beloved government would result in a stiff jail term.....

Or do you mean broken as parts?

 

[Deleted member 11979]

Update! As I write a green M reg E220 estate with it original local dealer number plates is being hoisted by it's roof! I can even see it has a newish exhaust!

That's the first Benz I have seen become a victim!

 

[Dieselman]

It's not a green argument, as it's clear enough that manufacture is more polluting and energy consuming than running most cars throughout their lives.

Not so. A car consumes about 12-15% of it's lifetime energy in manufacture and as most cars are ~95% recyclable now there isn't a lot of pollution, hence such things as water based paints and lack of wax injection using VOC.

 

[Deleted member 11979]

I think the "green" argument might well stack up, I don't know enough about it, I just think it's a huge shame that cars much much better than my first car, and with a lot of use to give are being crushed!
Call me an old fool but the 106 was sat on the top of a pile with it's wipers still going, reminded me of Herbie!

 

[JumboBeef]

E220 estate with it original local dealer number plates is being hoisted by it's roof!

 

[J400uk]

Such a waste

 

[Howard]

I thought if they were traded in under the scrappage scheme , it has to be destroyed , not parted out or sold on ?

the owner of the yard has a SL55AMG, CLS 320 CDi, Range Rover Sport and Lamborghini something LP640 summink

Bet they're all Cat D's

 

[219]

I suggest he keeps his head down - fraud on that scale against our beloved government would result in a stiff jail term.....

Or do you mean broken as parts?

Why do you say that ?

Scrappage cars can be exported perfectly legally - they just can't return to the roads in the UK .

 

[219]

I thought if they were traded in under the scrappage scheme , it has to be destroyed , not parted out or sold on ?



Bet they're all Cat D's

They can either be exported as complete cars , dismantled for parts , or crushed if of no other value .

The primary restriction is that they must never return to the roads in the UK .

 

[Howard]

So all the nonsense about getting polluting vehicles off the road is just that then ...

We are just moving the problem to another country , or does pollution respect national boundaries ?

 

[219]

Good question .

I wonder if , should the notion take me , I could import a 'classic' Mercedes from , say , Germany that had been surrendered under their equivalent of the scrappage scheme ( assuming they also export such cars) ?

 

[st4]

We are just moving the problem to another country , or does pollution respect national boundaries ?

Of course it does. Thats why we cant build coal power stations but china can build 5/week. You see CO2 from Britain is much worse than CO2 from china

 

[Seamster15]

I suggest he keeps his head down - fraud on that scale against our beloved government would result in a stiff jail term.....

Or do you mean broken as parts?

No, sold as a running car. As long as its never registered in this country again and exported he is free to do so. All we are doing is offloading our older cars to other poorer countries.

The dealer taking the car in as scrap makes money on a new car, then sends it to the breakers for scrap (suspect lots of under the counter dealings) who then inturn have contacts from the Polish and other communities collect them. They are taken away on foreign lorries and never seen again....

 

[wemorgan]

Of course it does. Thats why we cant build coal power stations but china can build 5/week. You see CO2 from Britain is much worse than CO2 from china

plus the prevailing winds are westerly, so their nasty smelly air will never reach us

 

[st4]

plus the prevailing winds are westerly, so their nasty smelly air will never reach us

but our carbon dioxides will. you see its our range rovers that cause all the problems, not their power stations.

Its a cleverly thought out scientific theory this one :bannana: