W114 W115 NLA Parts Thread: Not available in the EU/ Special order or OEM options

[Screwdriver]

Sadly, several key parts are increasingly NLA from Mercedes Benz. Thought I'd post the Part #s with options for others who, like me, are wondering what best options remain. My car is a 76 240D.

Thoughts on better OEM options welcome -if you'd like to help fellow owners like myself, please post other NLA parts I've missed in the same format (Description -> Part # -> Alternative Part with purchase link)

1) Radiator A1145011101 Special Order from MB

2) Oil Cooler A1081800265 Special Order from MB

3) Heater Blower A1158350207 Special Order from MB

4) Centre Exhaust A1154900115 Special Order from MB

5) Front Sub Frame Mount Kit 1153301875 Meyle Aftermarket Option (Guessing they're better than Febi?)

 

[alabbasi]

5) Front Sub Frame Mount Kit 1153301875 Meyle Aftermarket Option (Guessing they're better than Febi?)

I doubt it, Meyle is Chinese with a German sounding name. I've not seen them hold up. I've put Febi on my 107's which has the same sub frame as a W114/5 but with a much heavier engine. They hold up.

 

[219]

There are specialists on the continent who may be able to help . Some of them have refurbished parts , or have items manufactured.

In no particular order .

Ersatzteile für Ihren Mercedes Benz, Spare Parts for Classic Cars Daimler W 107, C 107, R 107, W 108, W 109, W 110, W 111, W 112, W 113, W 114, W 115, W 116, W 123, W 126, Ersatzteile W 107, C 107, R 107, W 108, W 109, W 110, W 111, W 112, W 113, W 114, W 115, W 116, W 123, W 126, R 107, W 107, C 107, spare parts W 108, W 109, W 110, W 111, W 112, W 113, W 114, W 115, W 116, W 123, W 126, R 107, C 107, W 107, W 108, W 109, W 110, W 111, W 112, W 113, W 114, W 115, W 116, W 113, W 126, R 107, C 107, W 107, W 108, W 109, W 110, W 111, W 112, W 113, W 114, W 115, W 116, W 123, W 126, Pagode - DB Depot

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Also bear in mind that for radiators and oil coolers you can usually have them re-cored locally . Probably the best known was Serck , but there will be many small independent companies across the country who will do this .

Serck Automotive

Sometimes, you will find that even where MB no longer list a part , the OE manufacturers may be able to help . The radiator in your car would’ve been made by Behr .

https://www.behrhellaservice.com/behr-hella-service/en/Online-catalog-5076.html

Finally , don’t overlook breakers yards , my pal walked into a yard in Galashiels two weeks ago and found this ; he’d have bought it complete but they’d already issued the certificate of destruction and will now only break it .



Note the front bench seat , hence shortened centre console and column change automatic .

My 220/8 had individual front seats , but my dad originally ordered it New with column change manual .

 

[Screwdriver]

I would have thought Febi Bilstein is also a Chinese manufactured brand?

 

[alabbasi]

I would have thought Febi Bilstein is also a Chinese manufactured brand?

They may now have manufacturing in China as most companies do these days, but when I started getting into these cars, they were at the same level as Lemforder or Bosch. I would not have a problem using their sub frame kits as I've done that job many times.

The big problem that we're running into is companies like URO who enter the market selling crappier versions of the same parts for 1/3 price. The quality is usually so bad that might last 2000 miles if you're lucky, but they're counting on you not driving your car much. As the majority of people make their purchasing decisions strictly on price, they begin to own the market and push everyone else. The likes of Febi would either find a low cost provider in SE Asia so that they can continue to compete or get out of the business all together, causing the NLA situation.

The problem is not China (I've yet to meet 1 Chinese person that 1/2 a$$es anything). Companies are going there expecting to get the same part made for 1/10th of the price so that they can increase their margins and the first corner that gets cut is quality control.

 

[Bellow]

They may now have manufacturing in China as most companies do these days, but when I started getting into these cars, they were at the same level as Lemforder or Bosch. I would not have a problem using their sub frame kits as I've done that job many times.

The big problem that we're running into is companies like URO who enter the market selling crappier versions of the same parts for 1/3 price. The quality is usually so bad that might last 2000 miles if you're lucky, but they're counting on you not driving your car much. As the majority of people make their purchasing decisions strictly on price, they begin to own the market and push everyone else. The likes of Febi would either find a low cost provider in SE Asia so that they can continue to compete or get out of the business all together, causing the NLA situation.

The problem is not China (I've yet to meet 1 Chinese person that 1/2 a$$es anything). It companies going there expecting to get the same part made for 1/10th of the price so that they can increase their margins and the first corner that gets cut is quality control.

The race for cheapest is a real threat to quality - not just in the likes of bushes. When those who supplied quality are squeezed out and subsequently there is a need for that quality - what then? When the knowledge of how to produce quality is lost, it may be lost forever.

 

[alabbasi]

The race for cheapest is a real threat to quality - not just in the likes of bushes. 4 When those who supplied quality are squeezed out and subsequently there is a need for that quality - what then? When the knowledge of how to produce quality is lost, it may be lost forever.

It's doubtful. This is more about pricing then process as new car production will insist on high quality parts that exceed the warranty period for a new car. They couldn't care less about anyone driving cars that are 15 years old because those people rarely use the dealers to service them. When they discontinue support, it becomes a crap shoot.

 

[slade1]

If you want quality parts try mbclassics.de Niemoller Mercedes and German Ebay.

 

[Bellow]

It's doubtful. This is more about pricing then process as new car production will insist on high quality parts that exceed the warranty period for a new car. They couldn't care less about anyone driving cars that are 15 years old because those people rarely use the dealers to service them. When they discontinue support, it becomes a crap shoot.

Not car production I had in mind, but more generally.
By way of a hypothetical example - what if the knowledge and wherewithal to produce (say) high octane fuel was lost. No high compression (SI) engines are then possible. But we cannot be absolutely certain we won't at some time in the future need a high compression (SI) engine. That sort of thing.

 

[alabbasi]

I understand but cars are made from the sum of parts which have to meet a certain standard. Manufacturing is a process and quality control is part of that process that's often left out in the cost cutting effort. I know a guy here who has built a business selling electronic components made in China. He had trouble initially but then elected to hire a quality guy in the city where his contract manufacturer was to inspect everything before it got on the boat and reject whatever was not up to standard. He said that this worked out very well for him

What we are starting to lose out on is certain skills like panel beating. Modern collision repair process requires mostly disassembly and swapping parts out and therefore a modern body man is someone who needs to be quick with an impact driver. There's no longer a place for anyone who knows how to work metal or roll a fender on an English wheel. That's unfortunate.