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That the problem is you? Yes
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You're the problem, but not for long. In the next few years not only will lorries travel in convoy with no overtaking but pretty soon after, they'll have no drivers either. But you'll have brought it all on yourselves due to the same arrogance & selfish attitudes we see in your driving every day. If you won't change, technology will change for you, roll on the revolution!
Russ
Typical... I’ve run out of popcorn
I’m not generally the reactionary type but HGV drivers, in my experience, are the most aggressive vehicles on the road due to their size and I think they pull this overtaking trick on purpose; “I’m doing 60mph so every other mug can too”, the amount of time this happens on the A1 is ridiculous.
I posted here many moons ago about an HGV that decided to start his overtake on his fellow HGV where the M26 starts at the M25. As the M26 becomes the M20, he was still overtaking the same HGV!! The queue in the outside lane behind this guy was absolutely massive (I would estimate, several miles). This knight of the road was in a British Registered Eddie Stobart truck. I can only guess the name on his truck, I am assuming that most of us caught in his self created, tailback could have come up with a more appropriate name for it. Starting with C and ending with T.
As said earlier the standard of driving required for these things is minimal these days. The standard of intellect to not recognise that you are causing a queue half the length of Kent must be into the minus scale.
I support our HGV drivers and realise that they a difficult job, surrounded by stupid motorists, but they still need to help themselves sometimes and this is not the way to do it. They must know at the start of their ill judged pass, that it is just not going to work, without the inside truck slowing (which they never ever do). So why do they do it?
Myself living in Dover .....one day those in Government will finally have the brainwave to keep the lorries on the train from the Channel Tunnel have depots up the country to get off at and save all the dirty air from getting worse and save lives?
Yes how dare you, be more conciderate to those that could have planned better and left earlier. [emoji23]Yeh. I shouldn’t earn a living, very selfish of me.
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Having seen this happening on numerous occasions, should we assume that there are hundreds of lorry drivers on our roads who are also at the wheel of a large vehicle for the first time and aren’t aware of this simple bit of physics?I once rented a small one with a rear load lifter and driving on the motorway for a mere hour was hard work due to trying to keep the momentum and feeling the immense drag once you were not near a vehicle in front. When there were no cars in sight behind, I tried an overtake on a larger lorry, only to find myself slowing down as I pulled out then returned back behind it with my tail behind my legs. I wouldn't have the stamina and endurance to be a lorry driver - respect!
Not unusual for the M26. Where is Plod when this happens, someone must be seeing it on camera.I posted here many moons ago about an HGV that decided to start his overtake on his fellow HGV where the M26 starts at the M25. As the M26 becomes the M20, he was still overtaking the same HGV!! The queue in the outside lane behind this guy was absolutely massive (I would estimate, several miles).
Agree on the M8 in the morning, it's more often slow ass car drivers making lorries have to overtake......Having seen this happening on numerous occasions, should we assume that there are hundreds of lorry drivers on our roads who are also at the wheel of a large vehicle for the first time and aren’t aware of this simple bit of physics?
Regarding the posts about being held up on the A1, in my experience it’s car drivers as much to blame as lorry drivers for holding up outside lane traffic.
That sounds right, but why does lorries on the inside need to brake to go 1-2 mph less, thereby allowing the overtaking lorry to pass? They simply have to adjust their cruise control a little or take their foot up on the accelerator a little, i.e. decelerate, not brake.Truck drivers hate braking as it loses their momentum, uses more fuel and takes longer to reach their destination.
Doesn't make it right but it helps to understand rather than blindly blaming them.
That sounds right, but why does lorries on the inside need to brake to go 1-2 mph less, thereby allowing the overtaking lorry to pass? They simply have to adjust their cruise control a little or take their foot up on the accelerator a little, i.e. decelerate, not brake.
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Why don't you tell us how you really feel?! [emoji6]It takes two to tango and that is never truer than here. Both HGV drivers are aware that they are causing large queues to form behind them and neither give a hoot for your journey or it's purpose. Not once at any point will either one think "what of he/she actually needs to get past us?".
They are not all the same and some are still considerate and take driving as a profession but most that I see now do not give a hoot for anybody apart from themselves. I live next to the a249 in Kent. The road and verges are strewn (and I do mean strewn) with lemonade bottles full of wee, tossed from passing HGV's. The local layby's have all been closed mostly down to the Council and Highways England refusing to pick up the tab of cleaning up tons of excrement and litter deposited (in the main) by HGV drivers. "we have nowhere to go" is the cry of the HGV driver when questioned next to their pile of pooh. How about the lorry park on the M20 that sits empty along with the Lorry Park on the M2? "Why should we have to pay to stop over?" is the protest. Strangely when I need an overnight stay on business, neither me or my company think it a good idea to crap in the bushes or people's gardens, preferring instead to use hotels and pay for them.
The system is flawed. Where HGV companies seem to take the money for the freight but not give any to the driver for hauling that freight. In Kent now, we have local councils clamping HGV's that are illegally parked on Motorway Hard Shoulders, usually surround by steaming piles of human excrement, porn mags and other detritus. IN some cases they are chasing up the firms most of whom state that they do pay their drivers overnight fees, but the drivers pocket the money and park where they can. Last week we saw three people killed when their car drove into the rear of an HGV parked up on the Hard Shoulder while the driver slept, this is a spot that has drawn regular comments from locals fed up with the mess and noise.
The entire system needs reviewing rather than punishing "all".
No I do not hate HGV drivers and yes I do know how our food etc is delivered. What I am saying is that the entire system is now outdated and outmoded and needs to be refreshed.
But if it's an average zone you can zip up to 60 mph get past and then slow down to 49 for a while. You'll still maintain your average speed or pretty close to it.This is exactly the nonesense that is average speed cameras, its a 50 zone and the truck is driving at 47mph you go past it doing 50 mph and its pure nerve racking especially when its raining and your blinded by spray for quite a while its dangerous. Personally i like to accelerate when overtaking so im in the blind spot, getting sprayed on etc for a short a time as possible
I want an app on my car that shows me where I can drive up to, to retain my average.... That would be very handy.But if it's an average zone you can zip up to 60 mph get past and then slow down to 49 for a while. You'll still maintain your average speed or pretty close to it.
But if it's an average zone you can zip up to 60 mph get past and then slow down to 49 for a while. You'll still maintain your average speed or pretty close to it.
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