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Aircon problem R129

langlois

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Hello everybody,

With the recent heatwave in France I've needed the aircon on my 1998 SL320 a lot.......
Problem is : turn the aircon on & all is fine for a while, then the volume of air from the vents gets smaller & smaller until finally ( after maybe 30 minutes) there is no airflow at all.
The solution I have found is to put the unit into heating mode, wait until hot air starts flowing, and then revert to aircon mode.
I think I had a similar problem many years ago on my 1985 500 SEC, something about a flap behind the dashboard gradually dropping instead of staying open as it should, so maybe this problem is not specific to 129's
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
MANY THANKS §
 
Ahh. I had exacly the same thing on my wifes 320 r129.(also 98) I spent 2k trying to get it fixed with a specialist to no avail but then read something on another forum from someone i think in the US with the same problem and on their advice replaced just one sensor for less than £100 and all was fine for ever. However that was seven years ago and shes had a 230 for the last six years and I am struggling to remember which sensor it was. I have a feeling it was the exterior temp sensor for the climate but I cant be sure. I think I passed all the paperwork on to the new owner but I will see if perchance I kept something.
 
I think this was the post that solved it for me .Its the evaporator temperature sensor. Or at least it was on mine see below
R129 Climate problem

Hi all,

My turn to give something back to the forum, for a change. Hopefully this might solve your air-con problem as it did mine.

For a year, I battled with an air conditioning problem. Air stopped venting into the vehicle after 30 minutes or thereabouts, even though the fan was running and I could feel hot or cold behind the vents when I changed the temperature.

To cut a long story short, I got the following advice. Turned out to be a sensor. My local garage were a bit reluctant when I told them exactly what I wanted doing, but below is the advice I was given - it saved me changing the heater control panel (garage advice) and it has worked fine ever since:

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Service operation: 83 8054 01 "Temperature sensor on evaporator replace"
Part number: A 210 830 07 72 "Temperature sensor"

Sounds like your evaporator temperature sensor has failed. This causes the evaporator to ice up. You can check it on the pushbutton control module. There is also a technical bulletin about this problem.

It is a very cheap and easy repair. New sensor is about US$50 and can be fitted in the blink of an eye.





You can test the evap temp sensor using the diagnostic feature on the a/c push button control unit.

Come to your car in the morning or when it has been standing for a few hours (so the engine and heater are cold). Turn the ignition on, without firing the engine. Run the self-diagnostic routine on the air con pushbutton control panel and check the evaporator temperature reading. If the sensor is faulty, you will have a logically impossible value:

1. Turn ignition on (without firing engine)

2. Set the air con temp to 72 deg F or 22 deg C

3. Press "REST" for more than 6 seconds

4. The left side of the display will alternately display "01" (which is the test number) and the cabin interior temperature (eg 72 deg F or whatever the temp in the car happens to be).

5. Press the fan speed "+" button to advance to the next test (eg "02").

6. The evaporator temperature is test number "05". The working temperature of the evaporator is between 2 deg C and 12 deg C. Obviously, if your car has been left overnight and has not been started, the value returned should be consistent with the ambient exterior temperature. So if it is about 12 deg C outside, the sensor should return about 12 deg C also. If the evaporator temperature sensor is broken it will return a logically inconsistent value, eg 40 deg C.

7. Now turn on the car and run the a/c for a few minutes. Repeat the procedure above. Test "05" which is the evap temp sensor, should return a value of 2 to 12 deg C if it is working. If it is broken, it will return an impossible value, such as 40 deg C.

The other tests on the push button control unit are great:

01: in car temp sensor
02: outside temp sensor
03: heater core temp sensor
05: evap temp sensor
06: ECT temp sensor
07: refrigerant pressure meassured in BAR
08: refrigerant temp sensor

21: engine speed
22: vehicle speed

There are loads more.

Part No. 2108300572….or 1298300072

Heating and ventilation …heater case


Service operation: 83 8054 01 "Temperature sensor on evaporator replace"
Part number: A 210 830 07 72 "Temperature sensor"







Nr. Description Unit

01 In-car temperature sensor °C
02 Outside temperature sensor °C
03 Left heat exchanger temp. sensor °C
05 Evaporator temperature sensor °C
06 Coolant temperature sensor °C
07 Refrigerant pressure bar
08 Refrigerant temperature sensor °C
09 Not assigned --
10 Blower control voltage Volt
20 Auxiliary fan control current mA
21 Engine Speed x100 RPM
22 Vehicle Speed km/h
23 Circuit 58d (% of batt. Voltage) %
24 Battery Voltage Volt
40 Software staus
41 Software staus
42 Variant Code 1st numerical value
43 Variant Code 2nd numerical value
50 Not assigned
51 Not assigned
52 Not assignd
60 Roof OPE/CLO
61 Left side air outlet, knurled wheel
potentiometer Volts
62 Vacuum actuator 46, feedback
potentiometer Volts
63 Center outlet, knurled wheel
potentiometer Volts
64 Vacuum actuator 47, feedback
potentiometer Volts
65 Right side air outlet, knurled wheel
potentiometer Volts
66 Vacuum actuator 48, feedback
potentiometer Volts

Item 63 is the input signal from the thumbwheel control for the center vent, and 64 is the feedback signal to the controller giving it the position of the vent flap. As you move the thumbwheel these values should continously vary from a minimum of roughly .7 to 4.5.

The original part number was A1298300072 - it has been superceded by A2108300572 which is £28. It is located under the dash on the drivers side by the centre console housing - you just need to drop the trim panel for access.

Attached Files:
 
Hello again !

I took your advice & bought the sensor - now I have to fit it.
When you say the part is on the driver's side, is this for a lhd or rhd car ?
Mine of course is lhd, and I imagine yours is rhd, but the post you transferred to me says "driver's side", and puts part price in "USDollars", so I'm not sure
Thanks for your help & will keep you informed of the ersult...
 

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