Brand new 190 EVO II

[EDZ649]

Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this....

New Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5-16 Evolution II on eBay (end time 17-Jul-10 12:37:08 BST)

 

[d w124]

We have some nice car hiding out there

 

[BTB 500]

Wow. You could never drive it though, as the value would be slashed.

 

[renault12ts]

Wow. You could never drive it though, as the value would be slashed.

That's true, but if you spend £100k on any car, as soon as you drive it the value will fall.

 

[buccal]

Yup, Museum piece only i reckon.

I would love to see it at Brooklands

 

[d w124]

Wow. You could never drive it though, as the value would be slashed.

You`ll pay that much for a new CL but i`m sure this`ll hold the value better

 

[Scott_F]

You`ll pay that much for a new CL but i`m sure this`ll hold the value better

Not if you actually want to use it.

You can get that much car for a lot less money and won't be afraid to actually drive the thing. And let's face it, what's the point in having a rare car with fabulous performance if you never use it for the purpose for which it was created ?

 

[Barbanasos]

I wonder if this is the car that was purchased at the same time with two brand new unregistered M3 E30 Evo's and an RS200. There was a thread on this a while back with the link to another forum.

What an opportunity though if money is no object.

 

[BTB 500]

That's true, but if you spend £100k on any car, as soon as you drive it the value will fall.

Yeah but.

If you bought any other car for similar money (say a supercar, couple of years old) and put 20k miles on it the value wouldn't be hugely affected.

Put 20k miles on that and it would just be a very nice low-mileage Evo worth maybe £10-15k?

 

[mercboiuk]

£100,000! The guy's having a laugh!

There was one a few a years ago, brand new, never registered, stored in the Channel Islands (Jersey, I think), which was for sale for around £45-50k ish mark, IIRC. I know they have increased in price, but that's verging on silly.

Having said that, if I was super wealthy, I would contradict my above statement and buy it anyway

Also, it appears to be a UK car. I once read there were 6 official UK cars. Can anyone confirm/correct me, please?

Darren

 

[Iain]

It's done 145 miles already and allegedly on private roads! Looks like it's pictured on a public road in the auction gallery. Also, it was booked into Mercedes Swansea when the vendor first got it. Did he drop it off on a trailer?
Agree with Bill, this is a very nice car with exceptionally low mileage. It's also a used second-hand car with a value of nothing like 100k.

 

[greggster]

..... and what a shockingly awful advert for a £100k car!!!! I am always so surprised at the lack of effort from most sellers when you consider the technology that is at our fingertips! Moan over......

 

[franey]

Anything I need to watch out for when I go and look at it?

 

[buccal]

I may get flamed for this, but regardless of its classic status i think i'd rather be seen in the slightly more subtle Evo I than a fully kitted Evo II.

Maybe i'm getting old

 

[jeremy 2516]

You couldn't drive it without major work on the suspension at least ........

Leaving a car for 1 year means work , leaving one for 20 years means having new everything rubber .

I recently found and aquired an Evo II that hadn't been driven for 11 years but had done 80K Kms . and that one needed everything rubber renewed .

 

[EDZ649]

It's done 145 miles already and allegedly on private roads! Looks like it's pictured on a public road in the auction gallery. Also, it was booked into Mercedes Swansea when the vendor first got it. Did he drop it off on a trailer?
Agree with Bill, this is a very nice car with exceptionally low mileage. It's also a used second-hand car with a value of nothing like 100k.

Technically it is not second hand as it has not been registered, therefore no previous owners.

 

[MOCAŠ]

Technically it is not second hand as it has not been registered, therefore no previous owners.

It's definitely second hand. Got to be careful not to confuse ownership with 'keepership'. The V5C only documents registered keepers, and does not have any direct bearing on whether the car is new or second hand. As the advert states, the car has been sold twice already. If it were new, the eBay sale would attract VAT.

I accept that most people go by the V5C when working out how many owners a car has had, but assuming this car were to be registered now, anyone buying it next time round would also want to account for its provenance prior to 2010, so they'd be well aware that it had had previous owners.

 

[EDZ649]

It's definitely second hand. Got to be careful not to confuse ownership with 'keepership'. The V5C only documents registered keepers, and does not have any direct bearing on whether the car is new or second hand. As the advert states, the car has been sold twice already. If it were new, the eBay sale would attract VAT.

I accept that most people go by the V5C when working out how many owners a car has had, but assuming this car were to be registered now, anyone buying it next time round would also want to account for its provenance prior to 2010, so they'd be well aware that it had had previous owners.

Fair enough but like you said, most people will go by the V5, which this doesn't have yet.

I doesn't really matter if ten people have 'owned' it previously, it hasn't been anywhere to be abused....

 

[MOCAŠ]

I doesn't really matter if ten people have 'owned' it previously, it hasn't been anywhere to be abused....

Agreed, but that would be equally true if the car had been registered before being squirrelled away.

Couple of interesting questions arise if the new owner does want to register it:

Would it get a new 10/60 plate (depending on timing) or an age-related one?

What would the VED be? As this is normally decided based on date of first registration, it should be emissions-related, but there wouldn't be any official figures for this model. Presumably it would need to go through the SVA process.

 

[vijilants]

Can't ever see the point of buying a car if you arn't going to drive it.

Cars are made to be driven