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Is that a current model???.

If not, it is irrelevant to the here and now
How can it be irrelevant when it sole purpose was to get around the legislation described in post #18, which you replied to stating Aston Martin weren't bovvered?
Looks like they were very bovvered.
 
How can it be irrelevant when it sole purpose was to get around the legislation described in post #18, which you replied to stating Aston Martin weren't bovvered?
Looks like they were very bovvered.

It isnt a current model so it doesn't contribute to the average of the range currently on sale.

Therefore past sales are irrelevant. The Cygnet was dropped because its lamentably low sales made next to no differemce to the average emissions of cars sold by AM.

How far back would you like to go to calculate the average for sales of a current range? Last century?
 
If AM was bothered about average missions it would have a current equivalent of the ugly duckling..or even an EV.

It doesnt because it isn't bothered by the requirements.
 
The Cygnet was dropped because its lamentably low sales made next to no differemce to the average emissions of cars sold by AM.

How far back would you like to go to calculate the average for sales of a current range? Last century?

The Cygnet was dropped only because Aston Martin argued that as a low volume manufacturer the emmision targets shouldn't apply to them. Until the EU agreed with them, the Cygnet was their way around the regulations. If they had not been given that concession, it would still be on sale now.
 
If AM was bothered about average missions it would have a current equivalent of the ugly duckling..or even an EV.

It doesnt because it isn't bothered by the requirements.
So by your reasoning, when the ban on sales of petrol/diesel engines comes into force they will simply cease to operate as a company as they have no alternative to the ICE?
 
So by your reasoning, when the ban on sales of petrol/diesel engines comes into force they will simply cease to operate as a company as they have no alternative to the ICE?

Yup - they cant sell what is outlawed...

Maybe you think they can sell something that isn't permitted...
 
Starnge that the internt has no articles to that effect, only that it was“quietly dropped”... perhaps we will never know the real reason they dropped a car that fell so far short of its sales targets..



One very good reason springs to mind, its Fuggly!;);)
 
Yup - they cant sell what is outlawed...

Maybe you think they can sell something that isn't permitted...
No, but you stated they are not bothered by requirements.
 
No, but you stated they are not bothered by requirements.

If their incompetent, useless CEO, recently fired having milked the company for c£30m+, had been bothered AM would have developed an EV DBX and not wasted £ms on vanity projects as a track only bike, the Valkyrie or entering F1 where AM has an abysmal history

AM is a brand that has a consistent record of mismanagement and building flawed cars - not just my view but one pronouned by fans such as Rowan Atkinson
 
Not for other manufacturers it doesn't.
Aston Martin doesn't seem bovvered...

I can't say I know what other manufacturers were doing as I didnt have anything on order from them, only Mercedes. This time last year due to WLTP testing and the incoming average emission quota all V8 AMG cars were in very limited allocation, they had to get overall average down to 95g/km from 120g/km in the space of 12 months for 95% of the fleet. That is due to sink further by 2025 to 65-70g/km. (can't remember where I read this). The new models get tax breaks for meeting the next upcoming legislation, I'm no accountant but 1 V8 AMG car equals at least 25-30 Battery cars. How many EQC's have they sold in the UK.............?

I would say this is the real reason why Moers has gone to Aston with his own money thrown in. Aston and Ferrari, amongst others, won exemptions in 2016 as limited manufacturers, and the exemption runs through to 2031. A prime company for Mercedes to invest in just for the quota, which are indeed transferable to 'partner' or 'parent' companies, as FCA just did with Tesla.

Its outright corrupt bullshit is what it is. Parasitic socialist lefties intent on controlling whatever they can whilst trying to pick everyone's pockets and telling them its for their own good. (For clarity, this statement is relation to the EU and its emissions regulations)
 
I can't say I know what other manufacturers were doing as I didnt have anything on order from them, only Mercedes. This time last year due to WLTP testing and the incoming average emission quota all V8 AMG cars were in very limited allocation, they had to get overall average down to 95g/km from 120g/km in the space of 12 months for 95% of the fleet. That is due to sink further by 2025 to 65-70g/km. (can't remember where I read this). The new models get tax breaks for meeting the next upcoming legislation, I'm no accountant but 1 V8 AMG car equals at least 25-30 Battery cars. How many EQC's have they sold in the UK.............?

I would say this is the real reason why Moers has gone to Aston with his own money thrown in. Aston and Ferrari, amongst others, won exemptions in 2016 as limited manufacturers, and the exemption runs through to 2031. A prime company for Mercedes to invest in just for the quota, which are indeed transferable to 'partner' or 'parent' companies, as FCA just did with Tesla.

Its outright corrupt bullshit is what it is. Parasitic socialist lefties intent on controlling whatever they can whilst trying to pick everyone's pockets and telling them its for their own good. (For clarity, this statement is relation to the EU and its emissions regulations)
What a load of tosh.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in Germany. Germany is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in France. France is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in Belgium. Belgium is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in Italy. Italy is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in Ireland. Ireland is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in The Netherlands. Holland is in the EU.

MB offer a much smaller range of models and engines in the UK. The UK is not in the EU.
 
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It isnt a current model so it doesn't contribute to the average of the range currently on sale.

Therefore past sales are irrelevant. The Cygnet was dropped because its lamentably low sales made next to no differemce to the average emissions of cars sold by AM.

How far back would you like to go to calculate the average for sales of a current range? Last century?
They hold the value really well though!
 
What a load of tosh.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in Germany. Germany is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in France. France is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in Belgium. Belgium is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in Italy. Italy is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in Ireland. Ireland is in the EU.

MB offer a much wider range of models and engines in The Netherlands. Holland is in the EU.

MB offer a much smaller range of models and engines in the UK. The UK is not in the EU.

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I'm not sure what your point is? Mercedes Benz fleet emission average was/still is too high for the EU market DESPITE the range of engines it sells across the the EU member states, hence the short supply of V8 AMG cars. I waited a considerable amount of time over the usual 16-20 weeks because of this. This is also the reason why packs/options are limited in a lot of markets except MB's home market, lower WLTP figure across the board is better for MB, not for the customer. I also don't see any cars for sale elsewhere with any engines you can't get in the UK, being as we are the second largest market for German cars after Germany itself, buying more than France, Italy and Spain put together?

According to Inside EV's less than 100 EQC's were sold in the UK up to April 2020. The electric car isn't the panache Mercedes thought it was, so it's going to have trouble if it is selling even a moderate number V8 cars that produce 240g/km Co2 AT BEST, if it can't shift any greater numbers of zero emission at the point of use cars. Along with any other manufacturer that isn't pushing electric technology. And the C63 has been its best selling large engine car in Europe for the last 10 years, and this is why it is unlikely to continue with a V8. Unless Mercedes are going to play the system just like FCA did.

Harmonised standards on emissions apply RIGHT NOW, as we are still in the transition period. And this goes back to last year when we were still were in the EU.

Feel free to read the whole article:

 
SOME ARTISTIC RENDERINGS ?????
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SOME ARTISTIC RENDERINGS ?????
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I like it. The new tech will be interesting for the segment too.
 
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Forget the new C have a look at the new 2021 E class lovely or what?
 

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