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You have to cover your ass though, its a funny thing to the vast majority of folks their car is the second most expensive thing they buy and very few folks want to look after them and spend money on them, that being said lets play this scenario out- car comes in for mot, passes with no advisories, owner is happy that no money has been paid (except of course the test fee) 2 months down the line a brake pipe bursts (as you cannot actually test a brake pipe unless you cut it in half and measure the wall thickness but with an mot destructive testing is not a thing) owner comes back to the test centre 2 months later and starts jumping up and down making angry noises and making a fool of themselves saying “i never had any advisories my brake pipe burst i had my pregnant salamander and its kids on board“ or whatever just to make it as bad as possible “my pedal went to the floor and i nearly crashed my car, you owe me wads of free stuff and money in compensation, its all your fault im going to the papers, dvsa blah blah blah” second scenario there is an advisory there, it was advised that first scenario doesnt happen end of story, the motor trade is a blame game i have heard so many times things like “you replaced my osf wheel bearing 6 months ago now my nsr wheel fell off you worked on my car last so you are to blame!” that is actually a joke in the trade now, it will never change as folks just dont want to spend money to have a safe reliable car, now im not saying all motorists are like this but the vast majority areOn my CLS they keep saying 'slight play in the steering rack'. I asked if this needed to be replaced and the answer was 'no'. I asked can it be repaired or adjusted, answer 'no, not worth it as it is so slight'. Should I live with it, answer 'yes it is not dangerous and not bad enough to warrant a fix'.
It would seem they are just covering their a**e, surprised they haven't advised there is a 'wheel at each corner' .
Surely the car failed due to illegal plates, which the owner knows are illegal but doesn’t care about then?Well you do have to be careful who you use for a MOT,my son last week fell foul of the Hyhunda main dealer at Southend on Sea,he has his car serviced there and it needed it's first MOT,booked it in and walked the couple of miles home,having got home he got a call saying the car had had the service but the car was a fail on the MOT because he had left the personal number plate on,ok he said I will be down with the proper plates,my grandson ran him down and thats when things went crazy,right near closing,the young guy tells him they have not done the MOT because if it failed he would not be able to pick the car up,cue my son going ballistic,the older and one would hope wiser manager says yes thats right so my son calls up the relevant government mot advice on his phone and shows them that the car is not dangerous if it has personal plates, they said you learn something new everyday,and no the MOT guy has gone home .
He booked it into Halfords and got a pass but had to run a day without a MOT,so just because you are dealing with main dealers always expect the worse
Exactly. We are all fed up of these illegal plates, the owner has mixed up the letters to try and spell half their name, put it in the windscreen, on the side of the bumper or spaced them randomly.Surely the car failed due to illegal plates, which the owner knows are illegal but doesn’t care about then?
So your saying they should have passed it with known illegal plates, and if stopped shortly after for a vehicle check you could have said the MOT said they were legal? And maybe risked their jobs ?If you had read it they did not MOT the car because the idiots thought that my son could not drive away with the car because illegal plates made the car dangerous,we are dealing with numpties,and on top of that given my son had the correct plates could not do the MOT because the guy had gone home,and I and my son do not care if you are fed up with illegal plates
I’m inclined to agree.The MOT not longer feels right to me. It ought to be about ensuring vehicles in dangerous condition are not allowed to continue being used on the roads. Instead of which it seems to have grown into an ever more complex inspection looking for petty problems which in some cases are used for revenue generation. I can't find the statistics but I believe vehicle condition is a very minor cause of accidents. There are countries with no safety inspection and there is little evidence that it makes much difference to accident rates. I do think there needs to be vehicle safety inspection in the UK but the national effort that goes in to the current MOT seems hugely out of proportion compared to issues which are a much bigger cause of accidents, for example distracted driving. We are even designing cars with increased distractions built in which seems madness to me.
I've left emissions out of the debate because I have no issue with emissions testing.
I recently saw an AMG-GT and being curious about how old it might be (it had a private number) I did a DVLA check. I was amazed to discover it failed its first Mot because one tyre was worn so far that cords had been exposed!Many on here have lived in foreign parts where MOT does not exist and have seen the scary stuff on the roads. I for one firmly believe some sort of safety check (annually to be the minimum) is a must. We on this forum (in the main) are 'car' people and would not dream of letting our vehicles becoming unsafe on the road, but in my own experience I know people who's only check on their vehicle is forced upon them by law every year, the MOT
Without it they would just drive until tyres blew, disc pads fell from the callipers and exhaust systems gassed the car's occupants. My friend who has two MOT stations tends not to get hung up on number plates and exhausts (within reason) but is dead strict on the safety stuff, brakes ,tyres , lights , seatbelts etc.
A lot of people just wait for a light to come on or a little screen to tell them that something is wrong. In many cases by the time that happens it's too late.I recently saw an AMG-GT and being curious about how old it might be (it had a private number) I did a DVLA check. I was amazed to discover it failed its first Mot because one tyre was worn so far that cords had been exposed!
If those with the wherewithal to own such a high performance car allow things like this it seems obvious that a regular vehicle safety check is essential to protect drivers from themselves.
Our Indie is less than a half a mile from one of the busiest M1 junctions, and we are frequently visited by people travelling long journeys, stopping off with one problem or another. Daily I’m staggered with the condition of people’s vehicles. One of many favourites being punctures/slow punctures, where the other tyres are bald/flat/wrong size etc etc etc.I recently saw an AMG-GT and being curious about how old it might be (it had a private number) I did a DVLA check. I was amazed to discover it failed its first Mot because one tyre was worn so far that cords had been exposed!
If those with the wherewithal to own such a high performance car allow things like this it seems obvious that a regular vehicle safety check is essential to protect drivers from themselves.
And glad we don’t live in foreign parts, I took a taxi in Dubai once, the driver missed the motorway exit, he turned round in the sand and rejoined the motorway in the wrong direction traveled a mile the took the proper exit off, thought we were going to die!!A lot of people just wait for a light to come on or a little screen to tell them that something is wrong. In many cases by the time that happens it's too late.
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