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Of course you can take it anywhere else for an MOT , once the defect has been rectified .
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Of course you can take it anywhere else for an MOT , once the defect has been rectified .
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Whilst this is correct, your insurance may well be invalid if you are simply driving about without a current MoT certificate i.e it ran out and you forget.
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How is a pre-booked MOT proven? Do you need to have an email from the garage confirming the appointment?
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Whilst this is correct, your insurance may well be invalid if you are simply driving about without a current MoT certificate i.e it ran out and you forgot to renew it.
Also you can only drive to a place of repair should it fail a test. You may have trouble convincing the Police if your home has no obvious repair facility i.e you park on the street.
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Yes, you have to provide proof, even just calling the garage to let the police confirm the appointment.
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Petrol Pete
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Yes it does if the car failed on a 'dangerous' fault as determined by the MOT tester...Would you risk the drive home ? I wouldn't.
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If I were running a workshop that did MOTs I'd be thinking about offering an emissions test as a stand alone regularly chargeable job reporting the emissions to the same standard as the test applied in an MOT. Am sure there would be takers for that.
The legal exemption does not specify that - it only states that you can take the car to a pre arranged appointment , and can take it away after the test .
Having the refusal certificate in your possession , showing the date and time of the test should be sufficient to evidence that .
It is a bit like the other urban myth that you can only go to the nearest test centre / by the shortest route / without stopping anywhere along the route , when , in fact , none of these things are true .
My decision whether or not to drive a vehicle away would not be based on a question of insurance but on the nature of a defect and whether it presented any risk to either myself or anyone else . In the event I decided the car was unsafe to drive I would safely recover it home , with my insurance still in force . The mere lack of MOT does not , in itself , invalidate insurance .
What is the legal basis for your argument here?
It is a very gray legal area and I have not, so far, been shown any definitive evidence either way.
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Legal basis ?, not sure, but if my car had just been condemned as dangerous by a government approved (and sanctioned) test centre i:e every MOT station in the UK ,I might not risk the drive home, even if I knew the car was 'safe' enough to drive home. I guess the first time we will find out is when a court finds someone guilty and sets a legal precedent.
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My understanding is that if your vehicle is not "roadworthy " then the insurance company has grounds for not paying out for your vehicle BUT and this is the crucial bit they are legally bound to not to withdraw third party cover . So if you fail the MOT crash into a rolls royce and kill the occupants third party costs are covered but you will not be reimbursed for the loss / damage to your vehicle cant remember where I saw this ( they cannot withdraw the third party bit because - can you imagine people being killed , massive third party costs - say you ran into a train on a crossing and derailed it and there was no third party cover for all the dead people on the train ? ) Thats why they cannot withdraw third party cover when a vehicle is unroadworthy . For your insurance for your vehicle to be covered i think you'll find it has to be roadworthy every day according to your policy failing an MOT is likely to make it unroadworthy but if its for emmissions my guess is you'd be fully covered but that is a guess . but common sense is unlikely to apply
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Half of motorists don't understand MOT changes introduced on Sunday | Daily Mail Online
It seems there's now 3 fault categories for the MOT. Dangerous, Major and Minor.
In the old MOT rules, minor would be in the same class as advisories, but it seems now that even minor faults will need to be fixed immediately.
It seems there's now 3 fault categories for the MOT. Dangerous, Major and Minor.
In the old MOT rules, minor would be in the same class as advisories, but it seems now that even minor faults will need to be fixed immediately.
Minor faults have to be fixed as soon as possible, not immediately. Advisories didn't need to be fixed at all!
I think that the new rules will be amended slightly after the first month and all the screw ups and confusion and chaos it causes, it like everything that changes always as mess at the start and then fix the problems. Basically garages and car drivers will be guinea pigs. I drive a van which has had the DPF cleaned out and you can't tell its been done and don't ask why as I don't know but my emissions are slightly lower now
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I think you are right about 'confusion and chaos' but I doubt any amendment (if agreed) will come quickly , the Dpf part of this is driven by the EU , it probably took them 5 years to come up with this plan and as we know once the Germans have made up their minds its hard to get them to change it back.
