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I still find it hard to believe the number of people with a basic lack of humanity who don't stop and help a fellow human. What is going through the mind of the car drivers, specifically the vito?
 
Twenty years ago, the office received numerous calls for almost every fatal collision. Same fifteen years ago. But from about ten years ago, the number of people calling in response to witness appeals began to decline to about five years ago where there might be a few calls collision dependant (child or OAP or vulnerable person involved) wheres last year, and the year before, nary one. Simultaneously, the number of vehicles failing to stop (that were directly involved) increased as did the number of vehicles not stopping to lend aid, often just driving around the collision.

I remember being told nearly forty years ago how a visitor to Lagos had watched people step over and around someone who had died in the street and being disgusted by the lack of humanity and here we are in 21st century UK with the same thing happening (not referring to the video-actual events). Now, people only seem interested if they can video something and then they scream blue murder when they are asked for the footage (the phone is my life, can't survive a second without it was normal) and develop total amnesia when asked to be a witness……..don't want to get involved was the cry.
 
Without wishing to get too mired up in politics, doesn't much of this behaviour appear to stem from the era of the infamous quote: 'there is no such thing as society'?
 
One would hope that either other cctv in the area will have identified suspect bikes to be investigated , or that local repair places/parts suppliers will flag up someone trying to get this bike repaired - the bike must have been damaged so someone must know about that .

Was there no debris left at the scene which might identify the make or model ?
 
Without wishing to get too mired up in politics, doesn't much of this behaviour appear to stem from the era of the infamous quote: 'there is no such thing as society'?

Not defending the hit & run motorcyclist at all but the pedestrian was a bloody idiot crossing a busy intersection against a red light when the traffic lights for the cars were changing to green.

Doubt the motorcyclist even saw him before he nailed him.
 
It looks like the motorbike rider's crash helmet comes off there (about 10ft to the left of the hit pedestrian)?

If it is, that would have DNA I would have thought.
 
Am I right in saying that the pedestrian crossed the road when the light was green?

Vito also obscured the biker's view.
Can't blame the biker for the incident.

There must be more to the story.
The pedestrian must have done something to anger the biker....
 
Doesn't matter if he just ****ed his wife and killed his dog , you're not allowed to run people over
 
Doesn't matter if he just ****ed his wife and killed his dog , you're not allowed to run people over

Yeah, but willingly doing something you're not allowed to do and doing something you couldn't foresee are two different things, no?
 
Am I right in saying that the pedestrian crossed the road when the light was green?

Vito also obscured the biker's view.
Can't blame the biker for the incident.

There must be more to the story.
The pedestrian must have done something to anger the biker....

I've no idea how everyone seems to know so much from this poor quality CCTV footage. As far as I can see, the lights must have been red for the traffic when the pedestrian started to cross, else why were they all stationary? Another set of lights (presumably for traffic in the opposite direction so presumably in sync with the ones for the traffic we can see), show that they changed to amber AFTER the pedestrian had stopped and looked and then taken a couple of paces across the road. I can't see from the footage whether or not there are any pedestrian control lights, and certainly don't know whether or not they were working.

If, as suggested, the biker's view was obscured by "the Vito" (I couldn't tell what vehicle it was TBH), then he shouldn't have shot off like that. Blind faith in a road being empty isn't the way to stay alive.

Finally, unless the footage has been cropped since the earlier comments here, how can anyone accuse other drivers of not stopping to help. The footage that I'm looking at shows the white vehicle driving past the injured pedestrian by just a couple of feet before stopping again. That driver may not have realised at first that the pedestrian was there, having had his attention distracted completely by the motorcyclist, but then stopped. I don't know, but I've certainly seen no more than a pedestrian apparently leaving it a bit late to cross the road and a motorcyclist in too much of a hurry to look where he's going and then riding off after hitting the pedestrian. That's it - no more.
 
But if you do something ( by accident ) like running someone over , you are obliged to stop ?

The defence of being unaware of what had happened is somewhat negated if you shout at them after doing it
 
I've no idea how everyone seems to know so much from this poor quality CCTV footage. As far as I can see, the lights must have been red for the traffic when the pedestrian started to cross, else why were they all stationary? Another set of lights (presumably for traffic in the opposite direction so presumably in sync with the ones for the traffic we can see), show that they changed to amber AFTER the pedestrian had stopped and looked and then taken a couple of paces across the road. I can't see from the footage whether or not there are any pedestrian control lights, and certainly don't know whether or not they were working.

If, as suggested, the biker's view was obscured by "the Vito" (I couldn't tell what vehicle it was TBH), then he shouldn't have shot off like that. Blind faith in a road being empty isn't the way to stay alive.

Finally, unless the footage has been cropped since the earlier comments here, how can anyone accuse other drivers of not stopping to help. The footage that I'm looking at shows the white vehicle driving past the injured pedestrian by just a couple of feet before stopping again. That driver may not have realised at first that the pedestrian was there, having had his attention distracted completely by the motorcyclist, but then stopped. I don't know, but I've certainly seen no more than a pedestrian apparently leaving it a bit late to cross the road and a motorcyclist in too much of a hurry to look where he's going and then riding off after hitting the pedestrian. That's it - no more.

Agree with some of your post.
I suspect the biker was already in motion and approaching the lights when they turned amber-green, hence his pace.
I don't think he set off from a standstill.
Looked more likely to have been in motion already.
But, yes, one should always approach with caution.

However, this also applies to pedestrians and I can't see the pedestrian making any suitable effort to ensure his safety.
He just seemed to bowl out onto the road with no real caution.
 
But if you do something ( by accident ) like running someone over , you are obliged to stop ?

The defence of being unaware of what had happened is somewhat negated if you shout at them after doing it

Leaving the scene, granted, poor decision.

Shouting at someone for causing an incident?... quite understandable.
 
Hmmm... interesting theory.
Afterall, we don't see what happened before the incident.




The pedestrian must have done something to anger the biker...

Tried to collect 'taxes' on the biker's patch I expect.
 

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