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Help please - EMERGENCY

SimonsMerc

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Driving through Europe to Poland, got as far as the Eurotunnel, in the tunnel water got spilt on the gear lever, wiped up quickly, but then the car refused to start (ignition turns all the way but starter doesn't start), and gear cannot be moved out of Park. Tried locking car and unlocking, tried lots of things, nothing works, car refuses to start and gear stuck in P. Have been towed by Eurotunnel to the nearest hotel (3 babies and tired wife, couldn't wait in car), now waiting for rescue - please help if you have any ideas at all.

-simon
 
Not sure if this applies to yours but mine has a starter lock out relay.
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Mobilolife

If you've got the Mercedes assistance - Mobilolife? - then call them asap

I imagine the lockout will stop locking you out when the water stops shorting the gear lever switch. You may need to remove some interior trim to get to it or to hotwire the switch so you may need help & tools

Good luck!



Nick Froome
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Called the AA, called Mobilo, everyone wants us to wait until tomorrow. At least the kids are safe and warm in a hotel. Neither the AA nor Mobilo will look at it at the roadside - they all need to haul it to a garage and look at it. Gonna try get some sleep - nite.

-simon
 
it may dry out the contact could be fooling the selector ...... into thinking its in drive try a hairdryer on the thing
 
Well, what an eventful day.

Ok, so we get picked up by a local working for the AA at 7am. The car actually starts this time (yaay), but the gear still cannot be moved out of Park. The care and I are taken to the local garage (a peugeot garage), who say they can do nothiing. So we go back to the hotel, I pack the whole family into the rescue truck and go 40 km down the road to Boulogne, where the nearest Mercedes dealership is.

After about three hours of diagnostics, they work out that I need a new control board for the Gear Lever. Well, the part costs over four hundred pounds, and cannot be available until next Tuesday. However, the dealership says that we are "safe to drive" on to Poland (through Belgium, Holland, Germany), because we can engage the gear manually. What they mean by this is they show me a trick where you put a pen through the soft cover at the bottom of the gear lever and manually turn off the blockage. I need to do this every time it moves out of Park...ok, fine, as long as they say it's safe then we'll go.

So I pull out of the dealership, onto the French motorway, and...hrm, the car refuses to go faster than 60kph (3000 rpm in I think 3rd gear). Damn :-( I get off the Motorway and phone the AA again, who come along and bring me back to the dealership (I'm not legally allowed on the Motorway at 40kph, and if I break down on the Motorway then I have to pay a fortune to be recovered by the private company who runs the motorways, so I get recovered instead).

So we get back to the dealership, and start negociating with the AA and Mobilo life. Mobilo are offering that they can either pay for:

1) 5 days car hire, or
2) A hotel stay until my car is fixed, or
3) A one way flight ticket to our destination for the whole family, and a return ticket for me (just me) to pick the car up, with a limit of not more than £350 per person

The AA, on the other hand, are offering:

1) Up to £500 of hotel bills, and
2) Up to £1200 of car hire bills, and
3) Some amount of taxi fares as needed (don't remember how much).

Sounds great, right? Hire a replacement car, drive to Poland, pick up my car on the way back. Except that...it's impossible to hire a car in France and drive to Poland. None of the Hire car companies will allow it - period. Their insurance only covers up to the German border. What a bloody nightmare.

One option presented is to hire a car, drive to the German/Polish border, then swap into a Polish hire car, and do the same on the way back. Except that the costs of doing this are way over the £1200 limit, and I'll have to pay by myself to cover the rest over and above. No way.

Another option is to sit in a hotel in the middle of nowhere (with one year old twins and a three year old, not to mention a grump wife) until next Tuesday, and hope that they get the car fixed by then, so we can continue our journey. But for one our whole journey is only two weeks, and for another I need to be in Munich by Monday morning (I'm dropping off the family in Poland then going off alone for a couple of days). So this is a definite no no.

After many protracted phone calls, I finally get both the AA and the Mobilo Life people on a single conference call (via my mobile phone, with two roaming calls, ouch), and get them talking to each other, on the single theme of "how best we can help our customer while still remaining within our limits and rules". Here's the plan I came up with:

- Leave car at the dealers to be fixed
- Hire a car in Boulogne and drive to Paris
- Stay tonight in a hotel in Paris
- All Fly from Paris to Warsaw tomorrow
- Hire a car in Warsaw for the duration
- In two weeks, fly from Warsaw to Paris
- Hire a car in Paris and drive to Boulogne
- Pick up fixed car and go home

My suggestion was that the Mobilo folk cover the cost of the flights, and the AA cover all of the hotel and hire car. They all went off and thought about it, talked to supervisors and the like, and result - we're in a (dirty, cheap, cold, but better than nothing) hotel room in Paris CDG, with a flight out to Warsaw tomorrow. The only place where the rules were bent is that Mobilo kindly agreed to us all having return flights on the condition that they don't cost more than their limit of £350 per person. I wasn't expecting that - the AA had offered to cover the return leg out of the £1200 hire car limit - but this is even better.

I'd like to take this opportunity to sing the praises of Mobilo Life. These guys are *superb*. They keep calling to check things are OK, they go out of their way to help you, they have a great record system so everyone you speak to knows exactly what has been said before, and best of all the only cost is to have bought a car from Mercedes and serviced it at a Mercedes Garage (I have a full service history, so Mobilo applies).

The AA have also been superb, but less so at the start. It really took a while for them to get in gear - only at the end did I get one gentleman who really knew what he was doing and started to get everything working. I also think the AA advertise their service irresponsibly. I explicitly told the gentleman when I was buying my policy that we were going to Poland, and he told us that yes we would be covered no problem, and when he went through the benefits he said explicitly that if they cannot repair the car within 8 hours they will provide a hire car for the duration of our trip!

Oh well, we'll see how it goes tomorrow - nite nite.

-simon
 
Good to hear your on your way at least, and glad to bee MB provided a decent service. Hope you have a good trip, well whats left of it.
 
SimonsMerc said:
I'd like to take this opportunity to sing the praises of Mobilo Life. These guys are *superb*. They keep calling to check things are OK, they go out of their way to help you, they have a great record system so everyone you speak to knows exactly what has been said before, and best of all the only cost is to have bought a car from Mercedes and serviced it at a Mercedes Garage (I have a full service history, so Mobilo applies).

What a nightmare for you - bad enough at the best of times, but abroad, in winter with a very young family :eek: . Glad to see the services have looked after you. :rock:

I've used Mobilo Life once and have to agree they were superb - didn't need the level of service you've had but it's nice to know that it follows through to severe cases such as yours. :rock:

Wishing you a safe and uneventful remaining journey.
 
What a nightmare. I would be going absolutely nuts at the moment and the wife would probably be beating me with an iron bar.

I hope it all works out ok in th end mate ;)

BTW the times I've had to use mobilo-life I have found them to be excellent :rock:
 
sorry to hear of this, hope you are back in good time.

Personally, i would push for having the car towed home and get someone to pay for the cost of flying back.
 
It's great to hear that you are pleased with the service, but how I wish the local dealer could do more.

If, if only they had the spare part,

If only they could take the part out of a model they have on their books (either new or second-hand)

Good luck, and a big warm hello to all your family,
John
 
Am I missing something? Why didn't Mercedes just give you one of their cars and you insure it?
 
stats007 said:
Am I missing something? Why didn't Mercedes just give you one of their cars and you insure it?
Because they will only do that for up to five days. That's the real irony here - I *could* have taken one of their cars (they offered us a Brand New E220cdi under Mobilo) and driven it to Poland, but it would have to have been returned within five days. We explored the possibility of taking one of them for a longer period and the AA paying for it, but the Mobilo people were unable to organise this (dealers do not "hire out" cars, there would have been too many complications apparently). If this could have worked I'd have jumped at it!

Anyway, we are now (finally) at our destination in Poland, with a replacement hire car (a year old Mondeo 2.0 Estate with Winter Tyres). Our flight from Paris was delayed by over two hours - it snowed in Paris last night, which is unheard of for November! The worst bit was that the folk from Air France made us check in our tandem buggy as hold luggage. This meant we each had a baby to hold, plus all our hand luggage, plus the three year old running around and screaming - and had to wait over three and a half hours all together before getting on the plane. I was incensed, but there was nothing we could do. At heathrow, they've always let us keep the buggy right up until we're about to board, so this really hit us for six - especially waiting in a queue for 45 minutes to get through security. You'd think they'd prioritise folk with babies, but no the French just don't care. We were lucky enough to meet another Polish couple who played with Andrew in the queue, so we could just hold onto the twins - if we hadn't, it'd have been a nightmare!

Still, the people at Warsaw airport made up for it. We got off the plane, and our buggy was waiting for us - and they laid on a second bus especially for us, so that we didn't have to rush! The hire car from the AA was ready and waiting, with a gentleman with a namecard standing at arrivals so that we don't have to wait in a queue, and it went so smoothly that the babies didn't notice as they were moved from the Buggy to the Car ;-)

Jon: Yeh, I was asking if there is any way they could get the part, but apparently it changed with a newer model year or something and it needs to be exactly the right part for a 2000MY W210. The part number is A8102670584 (the 2 might be an 8, not sure as it's hand written) if anyone with an EPC fancies looking for it. That part itself costs 405.89 Euros plus some sorts of taxes, but the total repair is likely to be close to a thousand Euro including labour - unless they discover anything else wrong with it!

Thanks everyone for your good wishes. And if anyone ever breaks down, I'd thoroughly recommend using Mobilo :-)

Cheers,

-simon
 
Only just read this thread.
If I'd seen it earlier Simon, you could have borrowed my car as it only sits up the yard all week. :crazy:
Hope you have a good time out there.
 
I've seen other airports checking in buggies and baby stuff when they know there's a delay. It's just not fair to the parents, the children or the other airport users. :mad: I've not seen it happen here for some time now. I've only ever seen buggies checked in at the foot of the plane here for some time. A much better solution!

Glad you are where you should be now ;)
 
Three cheers to Poland and three hoots to France,

surely some of these officials have children of their own??

John
 
Another epic foreign journey! Hats off to you that you managed to cope in the extreme circumstances.
Les
 
Simon, just posting to wish you luck with the rest of your journey. What a nightmare start; not sure I could have the patience you've shown :D

Hopefully the next instalment will be you returning home after a successful trip :)
 
Sounds like it's worth keeping up the MB service history to enjoy Mobilo benefits.
 

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