I need a 10 disc cartridge for a Kenwood KDC-C715
philharve
Member
Hi neilrr
I ordered a spare 10-disc CD cartridge for my Sony CD changer from Amazon. I think it cost about GBP16.00. I had a 2 - 3 week wait. Amazon still sell them but they are now GBP18.51. Is this what you consider cheap?
All 10-disc cartridges conform to a common standard so you shouldn't have difficulty locating one. The one I ordered was a Sony XA-250 CD Changer Magazine. I imagine other in-car hifi makers sell them too and they will cost about the same.
REGARDS Phil
I ordered a spare 10-disc CD cartridge for my Sony CD changer from Amazon. I think it cost about GBP16.00. I had a 2 - 3 week wait. Amazon still sell them but they are now GBP18.51. Is this what you consider cheap?
All 10-disc cartridges conform to a common standard so you shouldn't have difficulty locating one. The one I ordered was a Sony XA-250 CD Changer Magazine. I imagine other in-car hifi makers sell them too and they will cost about the same.
REGARDS Phil
Phil,
Thanks. I tried Anmazon but it's discontinued.
Do you mean they are ALL a standard size/configuration & any manufacturers cartridge would fit any other manufacturers CD changer? That would make things a lot simpler.
There are loads on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....rch.dll?from=R40&satitle=+9702387065%09&fvi=1
Thanks. I tried Anmazon but it's discontinued.
Do you mean they are ALL a standard size/configuration & any manufacturers cartridge would fit any other manufacturers CD changer? That would make things a lot simpler.
There are loads on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....rch.dll?from=R40&satitle=+9702387065%09&fvi=1
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philharve
Member
neilrr said:
Hi neilrr
Yes, I do mean they all conform to a common standard so it shouldn't matter who the manufacturer is. Still check though.
eBay is probably cheaper too.
REGARDS Phil
Doodle
MB Enthusiast
philharve said:
You are kidding, aren't you?I have had several autochangers from various manufacturers in recent years (Kenwood, Blaupunkt and Sony 10disc, Alpine and Pioneer 6-disc), and the cassette for each of them is different, quite markedly so. They are very much NOT cross compatible, and I wouldn't even envisage trying. Even if the cassette is vaguely the right shape, the location for the feed and shuttle points are in different places. Frankly I wouldn't risk it.
Each manufacturer will have a designated spares agent, they should be able to get a new cassette for you.
During my 9 month stint working as a support engineer for car hifi for one of the big manufacturers, I can remember at least a dozen cases where people had tried just this sort of thing.
philharve
Member
Hi DolphiN Tech
No, I wasn't kidding but now I've had time to reflect upon my comment I can see how it may be misinterpeted. What I should have said was that many Far Eastern multi-disc CD changer manufactures, not necessarily the big names, design their products around a common chassis design. This saves on development costs and the final product is brought to market more quickly than if designed in house. This makes strong commercial sense.
I think I am right in saying that multi-disc magazines come in 6 thru' to 12-disc stacks and no way are they interchangeable. However, I have encountered branded magazines of the same capacity which superficially look different but their overall dimensions are the same and their various cutouts, holes, apertures, disc selection tabs are all in the same places. This leads me to the conclusion that these makes of changer share a common chassis design.
Why, therefore, do some manufacturers market their own magazines? Profit, pure and simple! Buy them in from their suppliers, re-badge them, mark them up. A very common practice. It would harm big names' sales if it was widely known that cheaper, compatible, unbranded(?), magazines were available from alternative sources, possibly from the original chassis designers who would surely have designed a compatible magazine too.
I would never advise anyone to purchase a magazine without first checking its compatibility which, in most cases, only suits changers from the same manufacturer. Not such a surprise really. It's rather like inkjet printers and ink cartridges. Compatible cartridges can often be found ... but not always. This was the point I was trying to make with 'neirlrr'. It's always easiest to go for the obvious option but it's not always the cheapest route.
When I went in search of a 'spare' magazine for my Sony changer, I located a magazine compatibilty chart on the Web (can't find it again) and it listed magazines from alternative suppliers, none of whom were known to me. The Sony magazine was more expensive, though not by much, but it was more commonly available. I eventually bought one through Amazon.
REGARDS Phil
No, I wasn't kidding but now I've had time to reflect upon my comment I can see how it may be misinterpeted. What I should have said was that many Far Eastern multi-disc CD changer manufactures, not necessarily the big names, design their products around a common chassis design. This saves on development costs and the final product is brought to market more quickly than if designed in house. This makes strong commercial sense.
I think I am right in saying that multi-disc magazines come in 6 thru' to 12-disc stacks and no way are they interchangeable. However, I have encountered branded magazines of the same capacity which superficially look different but their overall dimensions are the same and their various cutouts, holes, apertures, disc selection tabs are all in the same places. This leads me to the conclusion that these makes of changer share a common chassis design.
Why, therefore, do some manufacturers market their own magazines? Profit, pure and simple! Buy them in from their suppliers, re-badge them, mark them up. A very common practice. It would harm big names' sales if it was widely known that cheaper, compatible, unbranded(?), magazines were available from alternative sources, possibly from the original chassis designers who would surely have designed a compatible magazine too.
I would never advise anyone to purchase a magazine without first checking its compatibility which, in most cases, only suits changers from the same manufacturer. Not such a surprise really. It's rather like inkjet printers and ink cartridges. Compatible cartridges can often be found ... but not always. This was the point I was trying to make with 'neirlrr'. It's always easiest to go for the obvious option but it's not always the cheapest route.
When I went in search of a 'spare' magazine for my Sony changer, I located a magazine compatibilty chart on the Web (can't find it again) and it listed magazines from alternative suppliers, none of whom were known to me. The Sony magazine was more expensive, though not by much, but it was more commonly available. I eventually bought one through Amazon.
REGARDS Phil
philharve
Member
Hi All
I almost forget ...
There are loads of cd changer magazines for sale on eBay which sould answer 'neilrr's original inquiry. Some don't look particularly cheap though. Rarity perhaps?
REGARDS Phil
I almost forget ...
There are loads of cd changer magazines for sale on eBay which sould answer 'neilrr's original inquiry. Some don't look particularly cheap though. Rarity perhaps?
REGARDS Phil
Doodle
MB Enthusiast
I now understand where you are coming from, and in certain instances there does appear to be a certain amount of cross compatibility, although the definitive word from the manufacturers is usually "You're on your own".
I was erring on the side of caution...from the manufacturers own parts supplier, the known correct cassette is normally only marginally more than the best guess deal on the internet (as you have said above). A knackered autochanger costs much more to replace!
Kenwood customer services should be able to furnish you with the number of their parts line, it would be worth checking exactly how much they want for a new cassette. Looking on the 'net, £30 seems to be about the going rate from most of the retailers.
[EDIT] - Spotted this on ebay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KENWOOD-10-DI...ryZ75300QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Would be worth checking the part number with the seller, Kenwood list it as the KCA-M112.
I was erring on the side of caution...from the manufacturers own parts supplier, the known correct cassette is normally only marginally more than the best guess deal on the internet (as you have said above). A knackered autochanger costs much more to replace!
Kenwood customer services should be able to furnish you with the number of their parts line, it would be worth checking exactly how much they want for a new cassette. Looking on the 'net, £30 seems to be about the going rate from most of the retailers.
[EDIT] - Spotted this on ebay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KENWOOD-10-DI...ryZ75300QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Would be worth checking the part number with the seller, Kenwood list it as the KCA-M112.
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At the mo. there are two Kenwood 10 disc CD cartridges for sale on ebay.
Does anyone own a KDC C715 and could look at their cartridge & see if either of these is the right one?
Failing that, does anyone know if either will fit a KDC C715 changer, or, how I could find out if they are correct? Both sellers are in the dark & while responsive, know nothing.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...%09&fvi=1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...AMEWA:IT&rd=1
Does anyone own a KDC C715 and could look at their cartridge & see if either of these is the right one?
Failing that, does anyone know if either will fit a KDC C715 changer, or, how I could find out if they are correct? Both sellers are in the dark & while responsive, know nothing.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...%09&fvi=1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...AMEWA:IT&rd=1
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Well, the first one I bought from ebay was wrong but the guy refunded my money & some of the postage.
The second one was EXACTLY what I needed. Altogether it has cost about £12 which is pretty reasonable to have a functioning 10 CD changer/radio & everything else.
The second one was EXACTLY what I needed. Altogether it has cost about £12 which is pretty reasonable to have a functioning 10 CD changer/radio & everything else.
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