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Juddering when standing

Wacko74

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<div class="bbWrapper">Evening all<br /> <br /> So 2009 ML in 3L diesel form, and I noticed that occasionally when I come to a stop and still in drive I get a juddering<br /> Out for a drive today and it’s basically every time I came to a stop <br /> It’s like the transition is trying really hard to overpower he brakes and starts juddering<br /> Knock it into neutral or park and it immediately stops <br /> It also has a little judder when I pull away now as well<br /> <br /> Any thoughts from our resident experts would be greatly appreciated</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 126988" data-quote="Wacko74" data-source="post: 3420612" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=3420612" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3420612">Wacko74 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Evening all<br /> <br /> So 2009 ML in 3L diesel form, and I noticed that occasionally when I come to a stop and still in drive I get a juddering<br /> Out for a drive today and it’s basically every time I came to a stop<br /> It’s like the transition is trying really hard to overpower he brakes and starts juddering<br /> Knock it into neutral or park and it immediately stops<br /> It also has a little judder when I pull away now as well<br /> <br /> Any thoughts from our resident experts would be greatly appreciated </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Not an expert however there are a few of things that spring to mind.<br /> <br /> When was the last time the transmission was serviced? Either low fluid or a well overdue service could explain the vibration, if unsure then it’s worth getting it done anyway.<br /> <br /> Have the engine and transmission mounts ever been replaced? Replacing them fixed a vibration at very low speeds in my car, which I felt when pulling up or pulling away.<br /> <br /> Finally a torque converter passed it’s best could also explain the vibration. This is the most expensive of the three things I’ve mentioned so fingers crossed the other things sort it.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks Bobby<br /> <br /> To be honest I don’t actually think the transmission fluid has ever been changed <br /> I always have it serviced at an independent specialist but I can’t remember them telling me it’s been changed <br /> <br /> I think that’s probably my first point of call<br /> Any idea what sort of price for this</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 126988" data-quote="Wacko74" data-source="post: 3420649" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=3420649" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3420649">Wacko74 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Thanks Bobby<br /> <br /> To be honest I don’t actually think the transmission fluid has ever been changed<br /> I always have it serviced at an independent specialist but I can’t remember them telling me it’s been changed<br /> <br /> I think that’s probably my first point of call<br /> Any idea what sort of price for this </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>It depends on the transmission, who you use and whereabouts you are, but I’d say £250-350. Automatic transmission specialists should be able to do the work for you too.<br /> <br /> Edited to add: Whereabouts are you?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">As you have no service history on the gearbox Getting a transmission service would be my first port of call .<br /> <br /> Torque convertors have a stall setting built in depending on design and worn out fluid could affect this .<br /> <br /> Service time.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 126988" data-quote="Wacko74" data-source="post: 3420612" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=3420612" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3420612">Wacko74 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Evening all<br /> <br /> So 2009 ML in 3L diesel form, and I noticed that occasionally when I come to a stop and still in drive I get a juddering<br /> Out for a drive today and it’s basically every time I came to a stop<br /> It’s like the transition is trying really hard to overpower he brakes and starts juddering<br /> Knock it into neutral or park and it immediately stops<br /> It also has a little judder when I pull away now as well<br /> <br /> Any thoughts from our resident experts would be greatly appreciated </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What mileage is the car on ?<br /> If it’s 100k+ may well be engine and transmission mounts .</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 126988" data-quote="Wacko74" data-source="post: 3420612" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=3420612" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3420612">Wacko74 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It’s like the transition is trying really hard to overpower he brakes and starts juddering<br /> Knock it into neutral or park and it immediately stops </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Does kinda sound like a TC problem. I'd research it further (code reading for control/solenoid issue?) before committing to a fluid change. No point in changing the fluid twice - if the box has to be opened up subsequently for a TC repair.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks for the input guys<br /> <br /> I’m based in Stoke-on-Trent. Used to use Merx in Stoke but the closed last year so last service was done at their sister garage in Macclesfield <br /> <br /> Cars just passed 180k so no spring chicken <br /> <br /> It ironic I’ve done over 250 miles since Sunday and it’s not done it at all <br /> <br /> I will see if the new Merx can give it a plug in and check the mounts for me</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 126988" data-quote="Wacko74" data-source="post: 3421092" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=3421092" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3421092">Wacko74 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I’m based in Stoke-on-Trent. Used to use Merx in Stoke but the closed last year so last service was done at their sister garage in Macclesfield </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>In that case I would suggest calling VMTP near Cannock. A few years ago I used them for a transmission service and they were excellent - their pricing was competitive too.<br /> <br /> Given the potential for other issues, sending it to a transmission specialist might be prudent as they may diagnose another fault before servicing it, so you don’t pay the fluid change twice.<br /> <br /> I won’t say who but a very well respected Mercedes specialist told me that they use VMTP for complex automatic transmission repairs, and that was good enough for me.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="44237" data-url="https://vmtp-midlands.co.uk/workshop/automatic-gearbox-repairs/" data-host="vmtp-midlands.co.uk" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://vmtp-midlands.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/DYWPG9-1.jpg" loading="lazy" alt="vmtp-midlands.co.uk" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-image" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://vmtp-midlands.co.uk/workshop/automatic-gearbox-repairs/" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> Automatic Gearbox Repairs - VMTP Midlands Ltd </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">VMTP Midlands Ltd specialise in automatic gearbox repairs. At our Cannock workshop we are able to remove and install units. Call 01543 270555 today.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://vmtp-midlands.co.uk/wp-content/themes/executive-pro/images/favicon.ico" loading="lazy" alt="vmtp-midlands.co.uk" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> vmtp-midlands.co.uk </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> PS They did mine whilst I waited.</div>
 
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