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New E class electronics

stevemac

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Has anybody else suffered at the hands of MB electronics?
I've spent numerous days at my local dealer getting things "fixed"...

e.g. rear tail light - mind of its own, lights up 30/40 secs after the near side one. Cluster has been replaced but no imprvement.

radio - again own mind, sometimes a line of ------ , other times no control and it even went on the blink at the dealer!!(replaced radio but is not convinced problem is solved).

I have to say I love the car but why can they not get the basics right? :mad:
 
My dad's W211 E320CDi has had problems from day 1 with the stereo and phone system. It went to the dealers 11 times in the end for this problem and the front unit was changed 3 times , the audio gateway was changed twice and the dash pod was changed? It is now thankfully fixed. The problem turned out to be a loose connection on one of the fibre joints. Pathetic really.
I however have had no problems with the electronics, mine E320 CDi just fails to start!!!
 
Not sure how old your car is, but suggest you keep a record of all visits (dates, work done, faults etc), and then present dealer with the keys and the list if things don't get resolved - three strikes and your out !
 
I had a few problems with mine early on, but they were all sorted out by the dealer fitting new gateways or software upgrades and its been fine since (touch wood).
 
No problems with mine -So far!!

The modern electronics do appear to be getting too clever, and there is the danger that they are not "Tractionised". ie not up to the wear and tear of everyday working?

However the standard of MB electronics is Excellent normally, but there is always the odd glitch.
 
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stevemac said:
Has anybody else suffered at the hands of MB electronics?
I've spent numerous days at my local dealer getting things "fixed"...
I have to say I love the car but why can they not get the basics right? :mad:

This may not cheer you up much, but the reason for these problems is quite clear. Not sure what vintage your car is, but pessimists suggest that anything built before late 2002/early 2003 will tend to be more prone to electronics trouble.

Following comes from a press article September 2003.


"Top executives at Mercedes-Benz admit that a wave of increasingly complex electronic products proved so difficult to debug that the German automaker is modifying its first-at-all-costs approach to technology. Quality glitches caused by Mercedes' Comand system proved maddeningly difficult to fix two years ago, forcing the automaker to boost product testing by 50 percent. Problems with Comand, which integrates the onboard navigator, entertainment system and phone, forced Mercedes to buy back 2,000 E-class sedans from U.S. customers. The quality glitches also created tensions with Robert Bosch GmbH, a key Mercedes supplier.

This is the first time Mercedes-Benz has acknowledged the widespread quality problems. During an interview with Automotive News at the Frankfurt auto show, a top company executive said Mercedes is working hard to improve its ranking on consumer quality surveys. "We have a problem because we are the technology leader," said Juergen Hubbert, the DaimlerChrysler board member responsible for Mercedes cars. "We were not talking about (the improvement) because you have to see it. On the next survey you will see we are on our way."

Hubbert was referring to J.D. Power's most recent Initial Quality Survey, which measures a vehicle's quality three months after it is purchased. The survey, which was released in spring, ranked Mercedes 15th among brands, barely above the industry average.

Problems began to crop up two years ago, when Mercedes-Benz had trouble integrating Comand's features. Bosch supplied the system's navigator. When Mercedes-Benz connected Comand's electronic systems, the screen would go blank and systems would malfunction. The system created other glitches. For example, the system inadvertently would activate the electric seats and drain the battery.

A Bosch source says Mercedes asked the supplier to integrate Comand's features after Mercedes had trouble doing so. But the effort to debug Comand strained Bosch's engineering resources. According to a Mercedes executive, Bosch placated its angry customer by firing a top executive in its Blaupunkt unit, which produces navigators, radios and other electronics. The Mercedes source did not name the executive, and the Bosch spokesman declined to comment."
 

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