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So I managed to kerb my diamond cut alloys, well the front offside one.

My fault and not something I have done since buying decent cars.

Never mind I can get a repair done at my home.

Well apparently not with diamond cut alloys.

Following a call to Mercedes Norwich and a search on reviews I will be taking the repair to B A Wheels in Norwich.

Downside is that it takes four to five days to complete the repair.

Not so bad thought I but hang on there is no spare wheel or jack with new cars, never thought of this before and buying a spare at £650 plus tyre plus TPS valve is an expensive option plus I have different size wheels front and rear.

Damn and b****r will have to borrow wife's Aygo if she will let me.
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Aaah, battle scares, wear them with pride!
 
I feel your pain, having done the same when my car was just a few months old. Hearing about all the hassle and time to get diamond cuts repaired I decided on a DIY job, suspecting that either my wife or I may well catch the wheel again before long. The damage was about the same as yours so I carefully smoothed it out with a Dremel drill, then finished off by hand with wet-'n-dry (being very careful not to go any further than necessary. After a thorough clean I applied a few thin coats of lacquer by brush and hoped it would do for a couple of months. Only a very close inspection when knowing where the repair was would show it up.

Four years later and all the wheels have stayed well clear of kerbs. More to the point my temporary repair has remained intact. It's now showing very slight discolouration but is still barely noticeable. I'll get round to redoing it sometime - in the next few years!
 
So I managed to kerb my diamond cut alloys, well the front offside one.

My fault and not something I have done since buying decent cars.

Never mind I can get a repair done at my home.

Well apparently not with diamond cut alloys.

Following a call to Mercedes Norwich and a search on reviews I will be taking the repair to B A Wheels in Norwich.

Downside is that it takes four to five days to complete the repair.

Not so bad thought I but hang on there is no spare wheel or jack with new cars, never thought of this before and buying a spare at £650 plus tyre plus TPS valve is an expensive option plus I have different size wheels front and rear.

Damn and b****r will have to borrow wife's Aygo if she will let me.
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Why not just buy a spare on ebay.?
I've been poring over ebay listing for a few weeks now and there are dozens of listings for single wheels and it would be nowhere near £650 for a spare.

In case any one asks, I'm looking for a nice set of 17's or (preferably) 18's for the Mrs' SLK (hint, hint). Thought I'd bought a set of the SL55 multispoke jobbies yesterday but the guy is playing silly buggers.
 
Why not just buy a spare on ebay.?
I've been poring over ebay listing for a few weeks now and there are dozens of listings for single wheels and it would be nowhere near £650 for a spare.

In case any one asks, I'm looking for a nice set of 17's or (preferably) 18's for the Mrs' SLK (hint, hint). Thought I'd bought a set of the SL55 multispoke jobbies yesterday but the guy is playing silly buggers.



Yes I have been looking on eBay but there are not too many that match mine and have tyres fitted (I'm a bit fussy I am afraid)

My car has different size wheels front and back so unless they are interchangeable one spare would not suit.

I can get the wheel removed so I will be able to cope for a few days it's just that I had not realised how inconvenient it is not having a spare wheel and car jack etc.


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I also thought about getting a spare wheel for my car, but the boot space to house the spare is only about 15" diameter and my wheels are 18" ?
Apparently it's mean for what's called a folding tyre that inflates to the size of your tyre size and the deflates to fit back in the boot space?
I have slightly damaged my offside rim turning into a parking bay with a raised lip, as I turned full lock into bay the wall of the run flat seemed to kink over and the rim impacted the concrete lip damaging the rim.
I took out the wheel insurance with MB when I bought the car but not had it done yet as it's only slightly marked it.

If I was you I'd check out the space you have in the boot to house a spare wheel, think you'll find its way to small to fit even a space saver.
 
This is the lip I damaged my wheel on

And this is the damage it did

Done it twice now on the same lip, if that's the only bay left to park in I now back into the parking spot.
And this is the other bit of damage

Even though it's only small damage it sticks out like sore thumb and when ever I look at that side of the car my eye is drawn towards the damage Grrrrrr
 
I also thought about getting a spare wheel for my car, but the boot space to house the spare is only about 15" diameter and my wheels are 18" ?
Apparently it's mean for what's called a folding tyre that inflates to the size of your tyre size and the deflates to fit back in the boot space?
I have slightly damaged my offside rim turning into a parking bay with a raised lip, as I turned full lock into bay the wall of the run flat seemed to kink over and the rim impacted the concrete lip damaging the rim.
I took out the wheel insurance with MB when I bought the car but not had it done yet as it's only slightly marked it.

If I was you I'd check out the space you have in the boot to house a spare wheel, think you'll find its way to small to fit even a space saver.

Yes you are correct my car would not take a spare as the space is used for the Adblue tank.

Also my wheels are different sizes front and rear.
 
I feel your pain, having done the same when my car was just a few months old. Hearing about all the hassle and time to get diamond cuts repaired I decided on a DIY job, suspecting that either my wife or I may well catch the wheel again before long. The damage was about the same as yours so I carefully smoothed it out with a Dremel drill, then finished off by hand with wet-'n-dry (being very careful not to go any further than necessary. After a thorough clean I applied a few thin coats of lacquer by brush and hoped it would do for a couple of months. Only a very close inspection when knowing where the repair was would show it up.

Four years later and all the wheels have stayed well clear of kerbs. More to the point my temporary repair has remained intact. It's now showing very slight discolouration but is still barely noticeable. I'll get round to redoing it sometime - in the next few years!



Well you inspired me to try and improve the look.

So today I removed the wheel and worked on the wheel with some wet & dry, I have not got a Dremmel and feel I would be dangerous with one.

TBH my DIY skills are pants, so I was very gentle and rubbed down the rough bits very gently, I then thoroughly cleaned the wheel and applied some lacquer to the injured area.

Pretty pleased really and you would need to investigate the wheel carefully to find the damage.

Will have to see if I can live with it.
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Not having a full sized spare, or not having one at all, in my view, is madness. When I started driving back in the sixties, it was absolutely necessary to have a proper spare. I also drove HGV's for 20 years, on the continent, and there is no way we would leave our yard without having two or three [depending on the spare wheel carriers on the tractor and trailer] spare wheels.

It always amazed me how many people can't, or won't, change a flat tyre. I see people sitting on the hard shoulder of a motorway waiting for Green Flag to arrive, to change a wheel. I would want to get off the motorway as quickly as possibly, and there is no way I would be sitting around waiting for a breakdown van.

People are too lazy, these days, to bother checking their spare wheel to see if it is at the correct pressure, and it is a case of "out of sight, out of mind". Having been brought up in the days of proper driving, and car ownership, I have no sympathy for some-one sitting on the side of the road with a flat tyre, and who couldn't be bothered to get out, themselves, and change it.

The other interesting issue is that of different sized tyres on a car. I really don't understand companies, and people fitting, for example 8 x16 on the front of a W126, and 9 x 16 on the rear. If you fit an 8 x 16 in place of the 9 x 16 then the car will handle most oddly, and may in fact be illegal.

I fitted 8 x 16's all round on my W126, and I went to great lengths to have 5 wheel rims the same. The 8 inch rim is obviously quite a bit bigger than the original 6.5 inch Mexican Hat spare, but it still fits the spare wheel well in the boot, although it is a bit tight. It is also higher, and what it did was to get a friend, who is a carpenter, to cut a new wooden board to cover the spare, using the boot carpet as a template, and then fitting small wooden spacers under the board, to sit on the top of the wheel well chassis rails.

This ensures that the boot "floor" is as strong as it was originally, and can't bend at the edges.

As the 8x 16's sit out at the front, but not at the rear, I fitted 10mm hubcentric spacers, which I suspect give the same width of track as if I had fitted 9 x 16 rims. By fitting the spacers the look of the car is hugely improved, and looks correctly balanced. And I have to have only the same sized spare wheel to replace any of those on the car.

I know that one can use the emergency inflation cans, but I did hear that the tyre fitters don't like repairing tyres with a filling of gloopy glue. I don't have experience of these emergency cans, but I know that I would much prefer a proper spare wheel than a pressurized can.

I have no issue about buying a full sized spare wheel where necessary, and I had to do this for my 2009 Jag XJR, which only had a space saver in the boot. The same thing happened with my E220, again which had a space saver wheel. In both cases I bought an original wheel on E-bay, and had the comparable tyre to the car fitted.

parkman
 
Not having a full sized spare, or not having one at all, in my view, is madness. When I started driving back in the sixties, it was absolutely necessary to have a proper spare. I also drove HGV's for 20 years, on the continent, and there is no way we would leave our yard without having two or three [depending on the spare wheel carriers on the tractor and trailer] spare wheels.

It always amazed me how many people can't, or won't, change a flat tyre. I see people sitting on the hard shoulder of a motorway waiting for Green Flag to arrive, to change a wheel. I would want to get off the motorway as quickly as possibly, and there is no way I would be sitting around waiting for a breakdown van.

People are too lazy, these days, to bother checking their spare wheel to see if it is at the correct pressure, and it is a case of "out of sight, out of mind". Having been brought up in the days of proper driving, and car ownership, I have no sympathy for some-one sitting on the side of the road with a flat tyre, and who couldn't be bothered to get out, themselves, and change it.

The other interesting issue is that of different sized tyres on a car. I really don't understand companies, and people fitting, for example 8 x16 on the front of a W126, and 9 x 16 on the rear. If you fit an 8 x 16 in place of the 9 x 16 then the car will handle most oddly, and may in fact be illegal.

I fitted 8 x 16's all round on my W126, and I went to great lengths to have 5 wheel rims the same. The 8 inch rim is obviously quite a bit bigger than the original 6.5 inch Mexican Hat spare, but it still fits the spare wheel well in the boot, although it is a bit tight. It is also higher, and what it did was to get a friend, who is a carpenter, to cut a new wooden board to cover the spare, using the boot carpet as a template, and then fitting small wooden spacers under the board, to sit on the top of the wheel well chassis rails.

This ensures that the boot "floor" is as strong as it was originally, and can't bend at the edges.

As the 8x 16's sit out at the front, but not at the rear, I fitted 10mm hubcentric spacers, which I suspect give the same width of track as if I had fitted 9 x 16 rims. By fitting the spacers the look of the car is hugely improved, and looks correctly balanced. And I have to have only the same sized spare wheel to replace any of those on the car.

I know that one can use the emergency inflation cans, but I did hear that the tyre fitters don't like repairing tyres with a filling of gloopy glue. I don't have experience of these emergency cans, but I know that I would much prefer a proper spare wheel than a pressurized can.

I have no issue about buying a full sized spare wheel where necessary, and I had to do this for my 2009 Jag XJR, which only had a space saver in the boot. The same thing happened with my E220, again which had a space saver wheel. In both cases I bought an original wheel on E-bay, and had the comparable tyre to the car fitted.

parkman



I did not realise my car had different sized wheels until around 2 weeks following collection.

I have had to purchase a Mercedes jack, wheel brace and wheel wedge as they are not supplied with the car.

I have a can of gloop and compressor in the back for emergencies.

If they fail I guess we have to call out Mercedes break down.

As there is no room under the floor and the wheels are so big it would not be practicable to carry a spare and mine is an estate which are huge.


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Not having a full sized spare, or not having one at all, in my view, is madness. When I started driving back in the sixties, it was absolutely necessary to have a proper spare. I also drove HGV's for 20 years, on the continent, and there is no way we would leave our yard without having two or three [depending on the spare wheel carriers on the tractor and trailer] spare wheels.

It always amazed me how many people can't, or won't, change a flat tyre. I see people sitting on the hard shoulder of a motorway waiting for Green Flag to arrive, to change a wheel. I would want to get off the motorway as quickly as possibly, and there is no way I would be sitting around waiting for a breakdown van.

People are too lazy, these days, to bother checking their spare wheel to see if it is at the correct pressure, and it is a case of "out of sight, out of mind". Having been brought up in the days of proper driving, and car ownership, I have no sympathy for some-one sitting on the side of the road with a flat tyre, and who couldn't be bothered to get out, themselves, and change it.

The other interesting issue is that of different sized tyres on a car. I really don't understand companies, and people fitting, for example 8 x16 on the front of a W126, and 9 x 16 on the rear. If you fit an 8 x 16 in place of the 9 x 16 then the car will handle most oddly, and may in fact be illegal.

I fitted 8 x 16's all round on my W126, and I went to great lengths to have 5 wheel rims the same. The 8 inch rim is obviously quite a bit bigger than the original 6.5 inch Mexican Hat spare, but it still fits the spare wheel well in the boot, although it is a bit tight. It is also higher, and what it did was to get a friend, who is a carpenter, to cut a new wooden board to cover the spare, using the boot carpet as a template, and then fitting small wooden spacers under the board, to sit on the top of the wheel well chassis rails.

This ensures that the boot "floor" is as strong as it was originally, and can't bend at the edges.

As the 8x 16's sit out at the front, but not at the rear, I fitted 10mm hubcentric spacers, which I suspect give the same width of track as if I had fitted 9 x 16 rims. By fitting the spacers the look of the car is hugely improved, and looks correctly balanced. And I have to have only the same sized spare wheel to replace any of those on the car.

I know that one can use the emergency inflation cans, but I did hear that the tyre fitters don't like repairing tyres with a filling of gloopy glue. I don't have experience of these emergency cans, but I know that I would much prefer a proper spare wheel than a pressurized can.

I have no issue about buying a full sized spare wheel where necessary, and I had to do this for my 2009 Jag XJR, which only had a space saver in the boot. The same thing happened with my E220, again which had a space saver wheel. In both cases I bought an original wheel on E-bay, and had the comparable tyre to the car fitted.

parkman

1. The non-lazy may have tried...and found massively over torqued bolts and been bereft of three foot of scaffold pipe.

2. The above type may have tried putting one their steel spare but the shorter bolts were missing and, correctly, they stopped right there.

3. A small motorbike / scooter can fit in a C or E Class estate. If one gets a puncture on a motorway, a wheel change makes you sweat!:doh:
 
A250 Bennyboy said:
I also thought about getting a spare wheel for my car, but the boot space to house the spare is only about 15" diameter and my wheels are 18" ? Apparently it's mean for what's called a folding tyre that inflates to the size of your tyre size and the deflates to fit back in the boot space? I have slightly damaged my offside rim turning into a parking bay with a raised lip, as I turned full lock into bay the wall of the run flat seemed to kink over and the rim impacted the concrete lip damaging the rim. I took out the wheel insurance with MB when I bought the car but not had it done yet as it's only slightly marked it. If I was you I'd check out the space you have in the boot to house a spare wheel, think you'll find its way to small to fit even a space saver.

Are those lips diamond cut? I'm sure MB wheel insurance doesn't cover diamond cut :eek:
 
ash59fifty-uk said:
Are those lips diamond cut? I'm sure MB wheel insurance doesn't cover diamond cut :eek:
I tried to get cover for the wheels when I bought my car new, but the dealer said that MB don't provide it for diamond cut wheels. I've heard other people say they have insurance for their diamond cuts, but presumably not through MB (or they've been sold it and are yet to discover it's limitations!)
 
1. The non-lazy may have tried...and found massively over torqued bolts and been bereft of three foot of scaffold pipe.

2. The above type may have tried putting one their steel spare but the shorter bolts were missing and, correctly, they stopped right there.

3. A small motorbike / scooter can fit in a C or E Class estate. If one gets a puncture on a motorway, a wheel change makes you sweat!:doh:

Well, in the case of 1) I would certainly be having words with the last person to fit the wheels. If it was a new car, I'd have words for the dealer/manufacturer. Pretty much no passenger car that I've ever worked on has used a wheelnut/bolt torque of more than about 90 lb-ft which, with a half decent wheel spanner, most people should be able to loosen. Over-tightening wheel bolts or nuts is a good way to either ruin them, damage the hub or even cause them to break later and make the wheel fall off.

If your tyre shop doesn't use a torque wrench to correctly set the torque, ask them why not...

Back when I had a sierra 2.8 estate, I had a LPG tank fitted in the wheel well. The spare I just carried in the boot - unless you habitually use all the boot space, this is not a big problem.

As for "different size wheel/tyre" - you can generally get away with a single spare. Often the spare will be a mismatch size anyway - provided the outside diameter is close, it will work well enough to get you out of trouble. At least on some cars, the different sizes come out with the same outside diameter, in any case.
 
Not having a full sized spare, or not having one at all, in my view, is madness. When I started driving back in the sixties, it was absolutely necessary to have a proper spare. I also drove HGV's for 20 years, on the continent, and there is no way we would leave our yard without having two or three [depending on the spare wheel carriers on the tractor and trailer] spare wheels.

It always amazed me how many people can't, or won't, change a flat tyre. I see people sitting on the hard shoulder of a motorway waiting for Green Flag to arrive, to change a wheel. I would want to get off the motorway as quickly as possibly, and there is no way I would be sitting around waiting for a breakdown van.

People are too lazy, these days, to bother checking their spare wheel to see if it is at the correct pressure, and it is a case of "out of sight, out of mind". Having been brought up in the days of proper driving, and car ownership, I have no sympathy for some-one sitting on the side of the road with a flat tyre, and who couldn't be bothered to get out, themselves, and change it.

The other interesting issue is that of different sized tyres on a car. I really don't understand companies, and people fitting, for example 8 x16 on the front of a W126, and 9 x 16 on the rear. If you fit an 8 x 16 in place of the 9 x 16 then the car will handle most oddly, and may in fact be illegal.

I fitted 8 x 16's all round on my W126, and I went to great lengths to have 5 wheel rims the same. The 8 inch rim is obviously quite a bit bigger than the original 6.5 inch Mexican Hat spare, but it still fits the spare wheel well in the boot, although it is a bit tight. It is also higher, and what it did was to get a friend, who is a carpenter, to cut a new wooden board to cover the spare, using the boot carpet as a template, and then fitting small wooden spacers under the board, to sit on the top of the wheel well chassis rails.

This ensures that the boot "floor" is as strong as it was originally, and can't bend at the edges.

As the 8x 16's sit out at the front, but not at the rear, I fitted 10mm hubcentric spacers, which I suspect give the same width of track as if I had fitted 9 x 16 rims. By fitting the spacers the look of the car is hugely improved, and looks correctly balanced. And I have to have only the same sized spare wheel to replace any of those on the car.

I know that one can use the emergency inflation cans, but I did hear that the tyre fitters don't like repairing tyres with a filling of gloopy glue. I don't have experience of these emergency cans, but I know that I would much prefer a proper spare wheel than a pressurized can.

I have no issue about buying a full sized spare wheel where necessary, and I had to do this for my 2009 Jag XJR, which only had a space saver in the boot. The same thing happened with my E220, again which had a space saver wheel. In both cases I bought an original wheel on E-bay, and had the comparable tyre to the car fitted.

parkman

I'm a sixty year old lady, have never changed a wheel, know categorically I could not lift a wheel, and never want to learn to do either.

The front and rear wheels on my car are two different sizes. I bought an original space saver wheel for less than £50 with tyre, unused, on ebay and have a compressor in the boot also. I have Britannia Rescue to do the actual change, that's what I pay them for.
 
Why not just buy a spare on ebay.?
I've been poring over ebay listing for a few weeks now and there are dozens of listings for single wheels and it would be nowhere near £650 for a spare.

In case any one asks, I'm looking for a nice set of 17's or (preferably) 18's for the Mrs' SLK (hint, hint). Thought I'd bought a set of the SL55 multispoke jobbies yesterday but the guy is playing silly buggers.

Why not just use a refurber that gives you a loan set of wheels while they have yours like mine does?
 
You could get alligators fitted to the rims, they come in different colours, just google it
 
I tried to get cover for the wheels when I bought my car new, but the dealer said that MB don't provide it for diamond cut wheels. I've heard other people say they have insurance for their diamond cuts, but presumably not through MB (or they've been sold it and are yet to discover it's limitations!)

My recently purchased S205 C250 AMG line state (2014) has diamond cut alloys and Bridgestone run-flats (different sizes on front and back).

This, together with previous kerb-kisses with my previous S204, convinced me to take out the combined tyre/wheel insurance offered by the MB main dealer (Lookers) I purchased it from. It's provided by Premia Solutions and covers diamond cut alloys.

I've not had to use it yet (touch wood) - maybe I am being a tad more careful but I also think the alloys sit more flush with the side wall than on the S204 and the side wall of the run-flats seem to offer nore protection for the rim?

Phil
 

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