Plugin Hybrid Question

[serenity]

I have a 2017 E350e plugin hybrid and when I fully charge it, it shows 24KM on the dashboard not 30K as advertised.
I also notice it gets me 10K or 15K max at e-mode?
Is there something wrong?
Is the battery due for change

 

[DSM10000]

The battery is 4 years old. Battery capacity degrades with age.

It is also dependent on external temperature and what other electrical demands (heating, A/C etc) are having to be supported by the battery.

 

[grober]

The car looks at the battery charge and the cars recent driving history [power usage] and predicts the likely range available based on that. e.g. if you use the aircon a lot/drive-accelerate fast in EV mode this will reduce the predicted range------ YOU may well find the predicted mileage changes over the course of your journey depending on the above.

 

[masterasg]

Yeah, I have a 2018 e350e and the battery had degraded a little so I only get around 11m/17km from a full charge

 

[serenity]

The battery is 4 years old. Battery capacity degrades with age.

It is also dependent on external temperature and what other electrical demands (heating, A/C etc) are having to be supported by the battery.

Yes I use AC almost always.

 

[serenity]

The car looks at the battery charge and the cars recent driving history [power usage] and predicts the likely range available based on that. e.g. if you use the aircon a lot/drive-accelerate fast in EV mode this will reduce the predicted range------ YOU may well find the predicted mileage changes over the course of your journey depending on the above.

Nice info
Can I reset it some how so it doesn't pick up from previous owner

 

[serenity]

Yeah, I have a 2018 e350e and the battery had degraded a little so I only get around 11m/17km from a full charge

Thats with A/C usage?

 

[masterasg]

Thats with A/C usage?

A little mixed to be honest - I dont always use it on a cool day and have the windows open instead. I guess it has worked out what I roughly use each time and used that to estimate.

 

[serenity]

A little mixed to be honest - I dont always use it on a cool day and have the windows open instead. I guess it has worked out what I roughly use each time and used that to estimate.

Makes sense thanks

 

[serenity]

If some people can give us estimates on KM/Miles on e-mode only (with and without A/C usage) that would be awesome as members can have a reference to measure against.

 

[YeahNoYeah]

I've got the a250e, original advertised range was 44m. Only got that for the first month(September) or so. I've been on here asking about it myself.. during the winter months my range dropped to 25m. And during the height of summer I was getting about the same. The perfect temp seems to be about 14-16 degrees. And obviously driving sensible helps. Not ideal but can't do much about it.

 

[serenity]

I've got the a250e, original advertised range was 44m. Only got that for the first month(September) or so. I've been on here asking about it myself.. during the winter months my range dropped to 25m. And during the height of summer I was getting about the same. The perfect temp seems to be about 14-16 degrees. And obviously driving sensible helps. Not ideal but can't do much about it.

Thanks for your input

 

[grober]

Nice info
Can I reset it some how so it doesn't pick up from previous owner

Don't think it goes back much further than the last journey. You may find that if the car has had a previous" power hungry " journey that the estimated range at the start will start to improve if the current journey you are on is not too taxing on power drain. in other words its still draining the battery but not as fast as it first estimated

 

[pmcronin]

I got my 2018 plate c350e in June of this year, with about 37k miles on it ( having moved from a Jaguar XF 2.2d). Didn't know how to approach the electric mileage issue at first - was I going to be forever disappointed with the 12/14 mile electric range, or just forget about it and drive it using the "full fat" performance?
In practice, the car changes how you drive - it becomes a different mindset on finding the balance between range and time - switching from Hybrid to e-save mode on motorway, using the batteries in town, slow traffic etc. On mixed drives, I often end up with 30/40 miles of battery use, because of regeneration/coasting etc.
By way of reference, here's a screenshot from the Mercedes Me app from today - trip home from work was 34.5 miles, at 67 odd mpg. Overall economy over the 3,163 miles since I got the car is 62.8 mpg...

 

[serenity]

Don't think it goes back much further than the last journey. You may find that if the car has had a previous" power hungry " journey that the estimated range at the start will start to improve if the current journey you are on is not too taxing on power drain. in other words its still draining the battery but not as fast as it first estimated

Makes sense

 

[serenity]

I got my 2018 plate c350e in June of this year, with about 37k miles on it ( having moved from a Jaguar XF 2.2d). Didn't know how to approach the electric mileage issue at first - was I going to be forever disappointed with the 12/14 mile electric range, or just forget about it and drive it using the "full fat" performance?
In practice, the car changes how you drive - it becomes a different mindset on finding the balance between range and time - switching from Hybrid to e-save mode on motorway, using the batteries in town, slow traffic etc. On mixed drives, I often end up with 30/40 miles of battery use, because of regeneration/coasting etc.
By way of reference, here's a screenshot from the Mercedes Me app from today - trip home from work was 34.5 miles, at 67 odd mpg. Overall economy over the 3,163 miles since I got the car is 62.8 mpg...

Nice info
Do you think it's a good idea to put the car on Charge mode instead of e-save while on motorway then e-mode when back to town?

 

[pmcronin]

Nice info
Do you think it's a good idea to put the car on Charge mode instead of e-save while on motorway then e-mode when back to town?

Economically, its a disaster: In the interests of science, while on a motorway run, I put it into “charge” mode while driving. ( Battery was depleted to 10%)… Petrol MPG went from 42.5 at a steady 75mph to 22mpg, and you could “feel” the load on the engine… didn’t slow it down, but really sensed it was working harder.
Only time it might be justified would be if you had to have battery power, and didn’t have time to stop and charge. Or if UK based, were going into a ULEZ area).

 

[markjay]

Generally speaking, electricity (in mose cases) is cheaper than fuel, so you should charge the battery from a charger as much as possible and only charge it from the engine where there's no choice.

 

[serenity]

Economically, its a disaster: In the interests of science, while on a motorway run, I put it into “charge” mode while driving. ( Battery was depleted to 10%)… Petrol MPG went from 42.5 at a steady 75mph to 22mpg, and you could “feel” the load on the engine… didn’t slow it down, but really sensed it was working harder.
Only time it might be justified would be if you had to have battery power, and didn’t have time to stop and charge. Or if UK based, were going into a ULEZ area).

So its basically useless and should not be used

 

[serenity]

Generally speaking, electricity (in mose cases) is cheaper than fuel, so you should charge the battery from a charger as much as possible and only charge it from the engine where there's no choice.

Will do