Question regarding ULEZ

[Northdude]

Hi I'm new to the forum. I'm after some advice. I've just bought a Mercedes Vito 111 CDI 2017. When i did a vehicle check it comes up as euro status 6b and on all the ulez checking websites it states that its exempt from ulez charges however on the log book which hss just arrived it states its euro 5 engine. I've had a look and even some 2019 vitos are euro 5! I've bought this van for the sole purpose of being able to go in to CAZ zones and I'm worried that the websites checkers are wrong and I'll get fined. Can anybody offer any advice on this, really confused and gutted about this.
Thanks

 

[m80]

Make sure you use the .gov site to check. If that says they 'aint gonna rape and pillage you, then they won't.

Check your Vehicle

tfl.gov.uk

 

[Northdude]

Make sure you use the .gov site to check. If that says they 'aint gonna rape and pillage you, then they won't.

Check your Vehicle

tfl.gov.uk

Yeah the government site says there is no charge. I read a post about someone who bought a car which the site said was ulez free then after they bought it the site changed and said it wasn't. Nightmare this ULEZ

 

[Northdude]

Make sure you use the .gov site to check. If that says they 'aint gonna rape and pillage you, then they won't.

Check your Vehicle

tfl.gov.uk

Yeah the government site says there is no charge. I read a post about someone who bought a car which the site said was ulez free then after they bought it the site changed and said it wasn't. Nightmare this ULEZ

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Well if the Government says….

But, I thought all UK diesels sold after 2015 are Euro 6.

So I don’t think you have a problem. On both counts

 

[Northdude]

Well if the Government says….

But, I thought all UK diesels sold after 2015 are Euro 6.

So I don’t think you have a problem. On both counts

I presumed they were all euro 6 as well! Guess I'll just have to hope they don't do a u turn on it

 

[poormansporsche]

Well if the Government says….

But, I thought all UK diesels sold after 2015 are Euro 6.

So I don’t think you have a problem. On both counts

You need 2017 to be 100 % sure. Plenty of euro 5s on a 2016

 

[Northdude]

You need 2017 to be 100 % sure. Plenty of euro 5s on a 2016

Mine is late 2017

 

[markjay]

Does it have AdBlue?

 

[Northdude]

Does it have AdBlue?

No it doesn't have ad blue

 

[Petrol Pete]

OP , I hope your vehicle is the one you hoped it is .

BUT , some of us buy vehicles intending to keep them for 5 or more years , unfortunately governments (and mayors of big cities) change their minds at the drop of a hat.

Hope it ends well

 

[Northdude]

Does it have AdBlue?

No it doesn't have ad

OP , I hope your vehicle is the one you hoped it is .

BUT , some of us buy vehicles intending to keep them for 5 or more years , unfortunately governments (and mayors of big cities) change their minds at the drop of a hat.

Hope it ends well

Thanks, I'd like to think I'll be keeping it for about 5 years but as you say they'll probably change it again in another year. It's hard enough at the minute being self employed never mind forking out big money for a van I'll probably have to sell in the near future. Its a joke

 

[KennyN]

Its a joke

At least you can still go into the "zone" by paying a charge , the LEZ in Glasgow / Edinburgh comes with a fine that doubles every time you venture into the area so the E5 vehicles are a no go if you need to visit the area.

If they were genuinely interested in cutting down the pollution in and around the CC then they should be forcing the companies that are doing the continual roadworks on the East side of the bridge to get a move on to complete them to free up the traffic that is stuck on the M8 carpark , they have just started more roadworks on the West side of the bridge further adding to the congestion.

I am currently looking for a replacement for my E5 Cayenne thanks to the LEZ around the area ,having to sell the best car i have owned due to the new local government rules.

K

 

[Northdude]

At least you can still go into the "zone" by paying a charge , the LEZ in Glasgow / Edinburgh comes with a fine that doubles every time you venture into the area so the E5 vehicles are a no go if you need to visit the area.

If they were genuinely interested in cutting down the pollution in and around the CC then they should be forcing the companies that are doing the continual roadworks on the East side of the bridge to get a move on to complete them to free up the traffic that is stuck on the M8 carpark , they have just started more roadworks on the West side of the bridge further adding to the congestion.

I am currently looking for a replacement for my E5 Cayenne thanks to the LEZ around the area ,having to sell the best car i have owned due to the new local government rules.

K

That's a nightmare for you. Especially having to get rid of your pride and joy because of it. Its the same where I am, Newcastle, the ulez is completely flawed. All its going to do is create more pollution everywhere else, especially when they extend it to cars which they will do. If it was just to go into Newcastle City centre I wouldn't be as bothered but it starts from the tyne Bridge which leads to a dual carriageway and main route to get to tons of other places which aren't in the city centre. To avoid it it means a massive de tour which will 3 times the journey time and cause 3 times the pollution. Its completely backwards.
The "LEZ" sounds a lot worse

 

[markjay]

That's a nightmare for you. Especially having to get rid of your pride and joy because of it. Its the same where I am, Newcastle, the ulez is completely flawed. All its going to do is create more pollution everywhere else, especially when they extend it to cars which they will do. If it was just to go into Newcastle City centre I wouldn't be as bothered but it starts from the tyne Bridge which leads to a dual carriageway and main route to get to tons of other places which aren't in the city centre. To avoid it it means a massive de tour which will 3 times the journey time and cause 3 times the pollution. Its completely backwards.
The "LEZ" sounds a lot worse

Personally, I don't think that ULEZ is a bad idea as such, the intention is to drive away harmful NOx emissions from busy city centres where the majority of the population lives and works. NOx is less of an issue around the countryside and in rural areas where it disperses quickly and does not really get a chance to harm people. This is also why there isn't a UK-wide blanket tax on all high NOx emissions cars everywhere, instead the idea is that these cars can still be used just not where there are high concentration of people. That been said, the rollout of ULEZ has been anything but flawed, but that's a different story.

More to the point, if your new van is showing on the government's website as compliant, then you're good to go, I should think? Just take a screenshot, this could help in the unlikely event that you do get fines (which you shouldn't).

 

[ALFAitalia]

Portsmouth CAZ (Clean Air Zone) zone is very odd.....private cars are not charged for entering the CAZ zone at all no matter how polluting!! Portsmouth are only charging CAZ fees for non-compliant vehicles that are Heavy Goods Vehicles (HGVs), buses and coaches, taxis and private hire vehicle.....weird. Been like that for a couple of years now .....can't see it will stay like that.

 

[Dippo]

The problem is that there is little or no national publicity about these clean air zones. If you're travelling to somewhere you haven't visited for a while, are you meant to google it beforehand to see if it has a CAZ, and what the rules are? The rules seem to vary across the country.

 

[markjay]

Portsmouth CAZ (Clean Air Zone) zone is very odd.....private cars are not charged for entering the CAZ zone at all no matter how polluting!! Portsmouth are only charging CAZ fees for non-compliant vehicles that are Heavy Goods Vehicles (HGVs), buses and coaches, taxis and private hire vehicle.....weird. Been like that for a couple of years now .....can't see it will stay like that.

It was the same in London - LEZ applied only to HGVs, but then they have introduced also ULEZ which applies to all cars.

 

[markjay]

The problem is that there is little or no national publicity about these clean air zones. If you're travelling to somewhere you haven't visited for a while, are you meant to google it beforehand to see if it has a CAZ, and what the rules are? The rules seem to vary across the country.

Apparently not everyone is happy to be notified in advance in case they travel into the zone.....:

Unbelievable !!! | General Discussion

My son received a letter yesterday from Transport for London telling him that his Range Rover 2014 will not be Ulez compliant for the expanding Ulez zone from 25 Oct 2021. Considering he lives in Scotland & the car has never been in London, he thought his plates may have been cloned & were...

forums.mbclub.co.uk

 

[Harrythedog]

That's a nightmare for you. Especially having to get rid of your pride and joy because of it. Its the same where I am, Newcastle, the ulez is completely flawed. All its going to do is create more pollution everywhere else, especially when they extend it to cars which they will do. If it was just to go into Newcastle City centre I wouldn't be as bothered but it starts from the tyne Bridge which leads to a dual carriageway and main route to get to tons of other places which aren't in the city centre. To avoid it it means a massive de tour which will 3 times the journey time and cause 3 times the pollution. Its completely backwards.
The "LEZ" sounds a lot worse

Nothing but a cash cow and a tax on businesses