Road tax price hikes.

[coneybiller]

Well I’ve not long taxed my W211 E320cdi (3.2 I6) and realised the difference between my reminder letter and the new price has risen £54 a year!!!
Typically, I put it off until last minute and got stung by the new price hike
There’s tax hikes then there’s tax robbery and this definitely falls into the latter! Trying to force people into newer cars it seems!

I’m wondering though, my W211 with this straight six diesel has a very rare option… A DPF. Shouldn’t this make my emissions less than a normal non DPF model and be in a lesser tax band?

 

[markjay]

Well I’ve not long taxed my W211 E320cdi (3.2 I6) and realised the difference between my reminder letter and the new price has risen £54 a year!!!
Typically, I put it off until last minute and got stung by the new price hike
There’s tax hikes then there’s tax robbery and this definitely falls into the latter! Trying to force people into newer cars it seems!

I’m wondering though, my W211 with this straight six diesel has a very rare option… A DPF. Shouldn’t this make my emissions less than a normal non DPF model and be in a lesser tax band?

My EV has zero VED and while I obviously benefit from this, I also think it's bonkers - why shouldn't EVs be taxed? They use the same road network as other cars. There are already plenty of incentives for people to get EVs (low running costs, low BIK for business users, erc), there's really no need for zero VED.

 

[DoberMan]

I've just sold my RS4, £675 tax per year, and bought a zero tax EV.

Robin Barstewards.

 

[W1ghty]

£395 for the year now ? At least that’s what my 2009 E320cdi just came in as .

 

[m80]

I’m wondering though, my W211 with this straight six diesel has a very rare option… A DPF. Shouldn’t this make my emissions less than a normal non DPF model and be in a lesser tax band?

Often a DPF will take a car into the higher tax band.
'Possibly' more with earlier DPF's, but there is an increase in consumption and therefore CO2.
Same with fatter tyres.
But if yours is registered before 23 March 2006 that's all irrelevant for tax as it's K* band.

 

[Spider10]

My RRS tdv8 is £695 eye watering at best

 

[ALFAitalia]

EVs will be taxed from April 2025.....confirmed at last budget.....GOOD!

 

[tonysmb]

Welcome to the world of inflation; ved has had inflation-linked increases for years. When inflation is zero or next to zero people don't notice the increase, 10+% is a different matter.

The govt hasn't really done anything different this year, it's just that the costs of the higher-rated bands have jumped noticeably and, of course, won't come down even if they get inflation under control. It's almost certain to make some cars in the 2006-2017 age-bracket more difficult to sell.

Unfortunate timing though in this case.

 

[Fastcar155]

Why don't the government put the RFL on to the fuel cost.The more you drive the more you pay.

 

[markjay]

I called the leasing company to ask about the new VED for EVs. They said that the VED is already included in my monthly payment plan so there's nothing for me to pay (I.e. they will pay the VED). Which is nice, but at the same time a bit odd - how did they know, when I got the lease 3 years ago, that EVs will be required to pay VED? Anyhow..... I wasn't complaining.

 

[markjay]

Why don't the government put the RFL on to the fuel cost.The more you drive the more you pay.

Because electric and hybrid cars will be practically exempt.

And because road haulage (and food distribution) will become more expensive.

The way to go about it, is to replace VED with pay-per-mile road charging, based on ANPR cameras.

A very thorny topic, though.....

 

[ToeKnee]

Why don't the government put the RFL on to the fuel cost.The more you drive the more you pay.

You already pay more the more you drive!

 

[poormansporsche]

I called the leasing company to ask about the new VED for EVs. They said that the VED is already included in my monthly payment plan so there's nothing for me to pay (I.e. they will pay the VED). Which is nice, but at the same time a bit odd - how did they know, when I got the lease 3 years ago, that EVs will be required to pay VED? Anyhow..... I wasn't complaining.

My recently signed EV lease stated (it was actually in bold !) that any increases in VED will be added to my monthly payment.

 

[markjay]

My recently signed EV lease stated (it was actually in bold !) that any increases in VED will be added to my monthly payment.

I guess I'm lucky

 

[toteimerced]

Pay per mile is coming, then we’ll all be paying.

 

[MrGreedy]

The way to go about it, is to replace VED with pay-per-mile road charging, based on ANPR cameras.

A very thorny topic, though.....

I'm sure a significantly less expensive and less surveilling system could, if we tried really hard, be thought up.

How about reporting/recording of annual mileage ar MOT time vs estimate for the year. You know, like paying your electricity bill, with an annual MOT reconciliation payment? Couldn't this work for a 'fairer' road tax?

It particularly dense urban areas, there could still be the extra surveillance web for pay per mile or entry/exit of zones.

 

[markjay]

I'm sure a significantly less expensive and less surveilling system could, if we tried really hard, be thought up.

How about reporting/recording of annual mileage ar MOT time vs estimate for the year. You know, like paying your electricity bill, with an annual MOT reconciliation payment? Couldn't this work for a 'fairer' road tax?

It particularly dense urban areas, there could still be the extra surveillance web for pay per mile or entry/exit of zones.

One of the benefits of an ANPR-based system is that the cost per mile can vary depending on the road, and on time-of-day.

This way, people who regularly drive through long and mostly-deserted country roads at night (for example) will pay less than those who drive into town during rush hour. Etc.

 

[Fastcar155]

Because electric and hybrid cars will be practically exempt.

And because road haulage (and food distribution) will become more expensive.

The way to go about it, is to replace VED with pay-per-mile road charging, based on ANPR cameras.

A very thorny topic, though.....

That was my wife's idea.

I live in the back of beyond !

 

[Dryce]

It particularly dense urban areas, there could still be the extra surveillance web for pay per mile or entry/exit of zones.

My observation/experience of the way the ULEZ works is that this probably isn't feasible without a much more comprehensive mesh of cameras in wider urban/suburban areas.

Vehicle black box is a more viable means of dealing with this - backed up with a much more sparse camera system that is used to check the black box operations.

 

[Dryce]

One of the benefits of an ANPR-based system is that the cost per mile can vary depending on the road, and on time-of-day.

A fixed cost per minute would allow a natural dynamic pricing mechanism that incorporate the effects of congestion/time of day.