Think I Bought A Lemon..Advice Please!

[Spin_bowler]

So, only the deposit paid so far then?

I fear not. Cheap for a reason.

 

[renault12ts]

I fear not. Cheap for a reason.

Given the price of cars in RoI...this is not just cheap...it's a give away...must be just the deposit.

 

[mat8n]

excellent.

but i wouldn't wait 10 days personally, i'd be down there tomorrow first thing discussing this quietly in his office, if he didn't play ball, loudly in his show room.....i had to do this once, it has great effect on a busy saturday morning.

 

[Spin_bowler]

Given the price of cars in RoI...this is not just cheap...it's a give away...must be just the deposit.

I can't imagine the dealer would have parted with the car on the strength of the deposit alone. This whole thing stinks.

 

[Vazza]

I am writing to you because,

The vehicle was involved previously in a major accident, which was not disclosed to me.

There are serious and dangerous defects in the vehicle which render it unsafe to operate.

The product is not as described and has several ongoing defects.

I agree that the car sounds dodgy but I think you might have shot your bolt too early...did I miss the bit where you took the car to an engineer for a independent report?

 

[renault12ts]

Given the price of cars in RoI...this is not just cheap...it's a give away...must be just the deposit.

Price now amended to 12500 Euro.

 

[IrishClaS]

e12500 is just about right here in the ROI.

No Engineer engaged yet, just pointing out the possible extra expense involved if that is the route to go down.

But I don't think l need a report to tell me what I now know!

 

[E55BOF]

I don't see the relevance of the PSV licence application, but apart from that, that sounds pretty good. I wouldn't go down to his showroom tomorrow to discuss the matter loudly in public, though, unless you think he might hand over the refund on the spot (unlikely); with so much money involved, he would promise you anything to get rid of you, but you already know he's not honest....

You don't really need the engineer's report at this stage; he already knew what was wrong with the car, and know he knows you know as well.

Tongue-in-cheek, if he digs his heels in, do you know any debt collection agencies of the 'two or three big hard men in leather jackets' type? Or have any friends in the local chapter of the Hells Angels?

Keep us posted, please.

 

[John Jones Jr]

I called him this evening(I had no access to a phone today), he was not happy. He said he 'was consulting a solicitor tomorrow', and hung up. Yea right.

So, that's brush off number 1. It really sets the tone of what you are dealing with.

Meet up with him but take a witness or better still if practical bring your solicitor along. You got to go all guns blazing on this imo while remaining calm, cool & civil.

 

[kianok]

Can't understand why you though it was a good buy in the first place to be honest.

A poorly painted second hand car low on oil, no thanks!

 

[Benplym]

People think doing a hpi check is bullet proof, my pal just pretty much wrote off his 330d, as the car was so expensive the insurance did not write it off, the "engineer" (who works on commission probably) that inspected it decided to repair it and he lost some NCB, not on any register of any kind. I don't even want to sit in the passenger seat as I saw the damage a few weeks ago. You cannot trust anyone and no matter what dealer you buy from you should always have an inspection. I know it's too late but I hope you get this sorted, I've had it 3 times now and it's a hideous process to get your own money back. Good luck

 

[Vlad]

I'm often intrigued by these types of purchases and I don't mean to be irritating, but why did you buy it?

You state that there was evidence of re-sprays, no oil in the engine, needed a new steering rack. Surely this was a red warning flag to go no further.

So was it a case that the price was irresistible or what was it that made you proceed with this purchase and not another CLS?

 

[Liquid silver]

I agree with Vlad. With all the alarm bells ringing with the spray, oil and steering rack issues I would have just walked away, there are plenty of other cars out there. When I buy a used car the first thing I look at is how clean the car is in the door, boot, bonnet shuts and last inside the petrol filler cap an area that is often forgotten. I know it is only superficial but it gives you an idea whether the car has been loved or not. If all that is ok then on to the more serious stuff. Hope you have a good outcome but, I think you will be severely tested.

 

[Vazza]

No Engineer engaged yet, just pointing out the possible extra expense involved if that is the route to go down.

But I don't think l need a report to tell me what I now know!

You don't really need the engineer's report at this stage; he already knew what was wrong with the car, and know he knows you know as well.

My point was the wording of the statements in your email make it sound as though they have been proven (which thus far they have not despite your suspicions)...it's likely to antagonise the dealer further. Personally, I would've gone in person to the dealer to discuss your concerns in a calm manner and if a satisfactory resolution could not be reached after this, then would begin to build a case against him e.g. get an independent engineer's report before seeking legal address, including reclaiming costs.

 

[DSB SL AMG]

+1...i went to look at a Jag XKR convertible this week, loads of plate changes, no previous mots or s/history present, so could not verify mileage, HPI clear on the plate but showed colour change (Black to Blue?)...overspray everywhere, poor fender to bonnet panel gaps...i ran a mile, you got to careful HPI clear does not mean an accident free car...if your not confident then pay for an indy inspection even when buying from traders...

People think doing a hpi check is bullet proof, my pal just pretty much wrote off his 330d, as the car was so expensive the insurance did not write it off, the "engineer" (who works on commission probably) that inspected it decided to repair it and he lost some NCB, not on any register of any kind. I don't even want to sit in the passenger seat as I saw the damage a few weeks ago. You cannot trust anyone and no matter what dealer you buy from you should always have an inspection. I know it's too late but I hope you get this sorted, I've had it 3 times now and it's a hideous process to get your own money back. Good luck