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TomTom to get even better?

bet the updates still won't be free though!

to be fair, I think tomtom's are excellent navigational devices, generally much better at the job at hand than the factory fit systems that you pay 10x the amount for. it's just a shame they are look awful when suckered to the windscreen, and leave wires all over the show.

For me it meant that I only used it when I knew I needed to be navigated. The advantage of the built in system I use now (a becker cascade) is that it's always there, so I can use it on routes I know to give me ETA's and traffic news, or I can quickly get it to guide me if I miss a jucntion accidentally etc. it also doesn't need removing when I leave the car.

I've wondered with previous cars about trying to sacrifice some kind of cubby hole or ashtray for a custom fitting to hold a tomtom, with all the wiring hidden behind it, and perhaps maybe a little drop down door to cover it when you're out of the car.

or perhaps some kind of nice looking extra binnacle than you could attach to the top of the dashboard to bring the screen closer to eye level and have a shade over the top. if only someone made something like that!

that said, I'll probably get the next generation of iphone and if the rumours about it having GPS are correct then I could use the tomtom software (that I assume would be sold for it) and a nice looking car phone kit. I'll always have my phone with me, and I'll always take it with me when I leave.

dave
 
TomTom's "map share" already gives you free map updates every time you connect (my preferences are set to only pick up ones that TomTom have checked and verified).

I rarely have any wires hanging from my 910 - it runs for about 4 hours on the internal battery, which is more than enough for most trips. I do stick the power lead in the glovebox just in case, but have never yet run out of power.

Some SEATs now have a TomTom "dock" on top of the dash. TomTom used to sell a dock for the original series (had to be professionally installed), but don't do them for later models which is a bit of a shame.
 
TomTom's "map share" already gives you free map updates every time you connect (my preferences are set to only pick up ones that TomTom have checked and verified).

hmm.. that's interesting. I haven't updated the firmware on my tomtom in quite some time (been using the becker unit for satnav duties). I ought to install tomtom home and update the firmware and see how many of the new features have filtered back to the older models. I think mine is a 910 too.

BTB 500 said:
I rarely have any wires hanging from my 910 - it runs for about 4 hours on the internal battery, which is more than enough for most trips.

yeah, but it still looks a bit messy, or I think so anyway. and you have to remove it and hide it whenever you leave the car, even if just popping into the newsagent.

and it means that if I decide that I need nav after I'm already moving, I need to stop, dig out the unit and get it setup, rather than just reaching down and accessing the menu.

not that I don't like them, I do, I'd just love to see a nice way of "installing" it semi-permanently, in a way that is reversible for when you come to sell it, and doesn't have "steal me" written all over it :)

dave
 
I'm using an old Go 700 & get all the free map updates on mine, I think the 910 is a more recent model so you should be OK.

As for mounting it, a Brodit Proclip means no holes drilled in the dash & no windscreen sucker required. All wires routed behind centre console and dash means it is less noticable to thieves and works well for me.

Russ
 
I rarely have any wires hanging from my 910 - it runs for about 4 hours on the internal battery, which is more than enough for most trips. .

Steer clear of the M25 then and the M6/M5 junction...
 
hmm.. that's interesting. I haven't updated the firmware on my tomtom in quite some time (been using the becker unit for satnav duties). I ought to install tomtom home and update the firmware and see how many of the new features have filtered back to the older models. I think mine is a 910 too.
Think you will need to buy a newer map too in order to get Map Share, mind you I only paid about £40 for the Western Europe one earlier this year. There are quite a few new features in the firmware itself, it also performs better ... locks on quicker when starting up etc.

Early versions of TomTom Home were a bit ropey but it's pretty good now.
 
Think you will need to buy a newer map too in order to get Map Share, mind you I only paid about £40 for the Western Europe one earlier this year. There are quite a few new features in the firmware itself, it also performs better ... locks on quicker when starting up etc.

Early versions of TomTom Home were a bit ropey but it's pretty good now.


MapShare only works on the newest TomTom models. So far, there is no sign of it becoming available on older models. So it's just another reason to upgrade, something TomTom desperately needs as the market for new SatNav devices reaches saturation.

We have two TomTom devices. Mrs 300D has the TomTom One XL GB and I have a PDA with TomTom 6 installed. On a recent journey in Cornwall we had both of them working at once and I was surprised that they selected different routes and gave different instructions, despite sharing the same initial settings. The variations in the two routes were surprising - they certainly weren't trivial.

On the A30 dual carriageway, every time we approached a lay-by, the TomTom XL said "keep right" and the TomTom 6 said nothing. I thought it might be the different voices we choose, but changing to the same voice on both machines made no difference. There are a lot of lay-bys on the A30 and these unnecessary instructions became very annoying.

Another thing that really annoys me about TomTom is the inconsistency of directions given at roundabouts. At one roundabout I use often, the instruction given is "cross the roundabout, first exit" in one direction, which should actually be "go left on the roundabout, first exit". In the reverse direction it says "turn right on the roundabout, second exit" which is correct.

At another roundabout, routes needing a left turn are announced as "cross the roundabout, first exit" instead of "go left on the roundabout, first exit", and routes requiring you to go straight on are "cross the roundabout, second exit". The roundabout has 4 roads all at 90 degrees to each other, so at least one of the directions given must be wrong.

Of course the map on the screen always tells you where to go, although the slow speed of updating while you are making a turn can lead you to take the wrong route if you aren't careful. I have learned to look at the map *before* entering the junction.

Today I found a dangerous flaw. I was approaching a roundabout where road signs told me I needed to go right on the roundabout, third exit. TomTom said "turn right". I looked at the map on the screen and, to my horror, the green route shown turned right on entering the roundabout and actually went around the roundabout the wrong way, against the traffic! I doubled back and did the manoeuvre again, with exactly the same result on the TomTom. I hasten to add that I went around the roundabout the correct way, both times!

I am by nature a very precise and often pedantic person (Asperger syndrome) and I get very upset when simple rules are not followed. The wrong verbal directions given by TomTom irritate me a lot, but I can just about live with them, as long as the map on the screen shows me the correct route through the junction. But I cannot accept a map that tells me to drive the wrong way round a roundabout. Grrrr!!! :(
 
MapShare only works on the newest TomTom models. So far, there is no sign of it becoming available on older models.

As I've already said, map share works on my Go 700 which I've had for years, so it does not require you to buy the latest model at all, only a later version map is required, Western Europe map was £39.95 for mine.

As for the roundabout problem, surely that is what map share has been developed for and will enable maps to be updated continually, no other sat nav can offer this amount of flexability as no maps can ever be entirely up date as the road network is constantly changeing.

Russ
 
Is TomTom the best? Or Navman or Comand?

Which model?
 
Dragon,


I have only used myself all manor of TomTom kit but have seen in other cars I have been in and family other units.

TomTom does seem the easiest to use, update, add features.

Which model depends what you want? UK, Europe, Bluetooth, mp3 etc..

I got one for the wife, I liked the widescreen one but she wanted one that was small so we went for the TomTom One europe. Works a treat with a built in hard drive. Very small to put in bag.
 
MapShare only works on the newest TomTom models. So far, there is no sign of it becoming available on older models. So it's just another reason to upgrade, something TomTom desperately needs as the market for new SatNav devices reaches saturation.

That's true. Now you can get cheap SatNav for £50-£70 and for most people that's enough.
Plus more and more cars with built-in SatNav doesn't make market easy.
And more and more PDAs and Symbian S60 phones- again, why buy satnav while PDA is able to do same?

We have two TomTom devices. Mrs 300D has the TomTom One XL GB and I have a PDA with TomTom 6 installed. On a recent journey in Cornwall we had both of them working at once and I was surprised that they selected different routes and gave different instructions, despite sharing the same initial settings. The variations in the two routes were surprising - they certainly weren't trivial.

On the A30 dual carriageway, every time we approached a lay-by, the TomTom XL said "keep right" and the TomTom 6 said nothing. I thought it might be the different voices we choose, but changing to the same voice on both machines made no difference. There are a lot of lay-bys on the A30 and these unnecessary instructions became very annoying.

Not only on A30 but as well on many other roads :) A361 for example - which is not dual carriageway. Or A303...
That is well know bug and was corrected- update your maps!

Another thing that really annoys me about TomTom is the inconsistency of directions given at roundabouts. At one roundabout I use often, the instruction given is "cross the roundabout, first exit" in one direction, which should actually be "go left on the roundabout, first exit". In the reverse direction it says "turn right on the roundabout, second exit" which is correct.

At another roundabout, routes needing a left turn are announced as "cross the roundabout, first exit" instead of "go left on the roundabout, first exit", and routes requiring you to go straight on are "cross the roundabout, second exit". The roundabout has 4 roads all at 90 degrees to each other, so at least one of the directions given must be wrong.

Of course the map on the screen always tells you where to go, although the slow speed of updating while you are making a turn can lead you to take the wrong route if you aren't careful. I have learned to look at the map *before* entering the junction.

Today I found a dangerous flaw. I was approaching a roundabout where road signs told me I needed to go right on the roundabout, third exit. TomTom said "turn right". I looked at the map on the screen and, to my horror, the green route shown turned right on entering the roundabout and actually went around the roundabout the wrong way, against the traffic! I doubled back and did the manoeuvre again, with exactly the same result on the TomTom. I hasten to add that I went around the roundabout the correct way, both times!

I am by nature a very precise and often pedantic person (Asperger syndrome) and I get very upset when simple rules are not followed. The wrong verbal directions given by TomTom irritate me a lot, but I can just about live with them, as long as the map on the screen shows me the correct route through the junction. But I cannot accept a map that tells me to drive the wrong way round a roundabout. Grrrr!!! :(


That would be another problem with maps. And yes, i would be annoyed as well!
Which roundabout are you talking about? I might check this with my TTs :)


Anyway, while travelling a lot in Germany I've found that Comand was much better than TT for some reason. I had one without maps - just arrows- but THAT WAS IT! Proper commands and arrows :) And TMC :)
Only thing which was missing was Speed cams warnings - but I've connected my TT in glove box to track the route and warn about speedcams. Max vol did the trick :)

I'm not great fan of TT but I don't have Comand in my car yet so have to use it sometimes.
It is better than normal map and should be considered as life-saving aid.

Cheers
Chris
 
We use the (single) Tom Tom 910 in all of our three vehicles as required - a HUGE saving over OEM satnav in each one.

We use the TomTom in Germany, no problems at all. It even prompts you to drive on the other side of the road when you go from a LHD to RHD country or vice-versa. My (German) father-in-law's COMAND doesn't have some of the newer roads around their village and displays "off road" when it thinks you're driving across a field :D
 
Which roundabout are you talking about? I might check this with my TTs :)


It's a long way from Exeter, Chris. It's in Didcot, Oxfordshire, where eastbound traffic from Milton Park Industrial Estate, travelling along Milton Road, joins the A4130. Here's a MultiMap (hope this works):

MULTIMAP

My route would take me south on the A4130 to the next roundabout where I would turn left (east), so I needed a right turn, fourth exit (I wrongly said third exit in my original post). But the on-screen map showed a simple right turn leaving the roundabout to my left!
 
I've had a wonderful time and much success with a TomTom One (as voiced by John Cleese) steering me around what's left of San Francisco's streets. True it's not so tidy as a built-in system, but you can also put the TT in your pocket and hoof across town.
 
I have TomTom 6 Mobile on my N95, albeit still using my external bluetooth puck.
My card has UK & Western Europe loaded as well as California and Nevada. When I was in the US last year it made navigation a lot easier, especially on roads that I had no idea of real distance on. ETA times made it a lot easier to predict in the real world when we would arrive at hotels etc.

I can fairly accurately predict how long a particular trip will take inside England, and large parts of Scotland and Wales. However give me a trip to Ireland like I had recently and TomTom is a godsend!


Given that I can also move my phone between cars it means I have Sat Nav in all 3 Mercs, both Hondas, Jag and my work car - as well as a US hire car :)
 
I've had a wonderful time and much success with a TomTom One (as voiced by John Cleese) steering me around what's left of San Francisco's streets. True it's not so tidy as a built-in system, but you can also put the TT in your pocket and hoof across town.


That's a good point. I use TomTom 6 on a PDA which is also a mobile phone. I just reset the parameters for walking on foot and it takes me right to my destination. You can't do that with Comand.

On voices, I purchased the John Cleese voice and also one called "Svennis" which is someone imitating Sven Goran Ericsson. They are both absolutely hilarious and make tiresome journeys less of a chore.
 
That's a good point. I use TomTom 6 on a PDA which is also a mobile phone. I just reset the parameters for walking on foot and it takes me right to my destination. You can't do that with Comand.

On voices, I purchased the John Cleese voice and also one called "Svennis" which is someone imitating Sven Goran Ericsson. They are both absolutely hilarious and make tiresome journeys less of a chore.

As an aside, the standard TTs can also be set for navigation on foot. The add-on voices are nice, but can't read out the road and place names if you have a TT with that feature.
 
I bought a TT One XL at Asda for £145. To cover a journey between Ipswich and Dundee, it routed A14, M6, M74, A80, A9 and A90 a total of 522 miles taking 8 hours 39 mins.

Without navigation, I used A14, A1, A66, M74, A80, A9 and A90 a total of 470 miles and it takes 8 hours.

Did I make any mistakes, supporters of TT?:confused:
 
That is a problem I've found with TomTom, it has too strong a preference for Motorways (and probably didn't consider the A1 a motorway). The same for my journey home from work, it would rather take me on the longer journey via the conjected M25 rather than keeping to shorter distance via fast national speed limit dual carriage ways
 

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