Tragic CLK/SLK crash

[Biscuit]

very sad. i flick from feeling angry at the surviving driver to pity for what his life has become.

the people for whom i reserve the greatest anger are however is drinking/smoking buddies and passenger. if i was the family of the deceased couple i would want some sort of punishment against his friend who sat - presumably willingly - in the passenger seat and let him drive.
"he was driving perfectly normally" is not an acceptable conclusion to an evening of drinking/cannabis smoking that ends on the wrong side of the road at 120mph.

is there not a motoring equivalent of aiding and abetting?

 

[bigbobs cl]

"Coroner William Morris recorded verdicts of accidental death" Sorry but if the driver was p1ssed up and been taking drugs in my eyes thats as good as murder or at the least manslaughter.

 

[Mr E]

"Coroner William Morris recorded verdicts of accidental death" Sorry but if the driver was p1ssed up and been taking drugs in my eyes thats as good as murder or at the least manslaughter.

That's what got me with this - this wasn't an "accident".

 

[Smatt]

This accident was local to me & I remember it from last year. I was surprised that the couple in the bigger(?stronger) car came off worse. The CLK was a 430 & I always wonder with these big engined cars whether there is excessive speed involved too, but this makes no excuse for the other drivers behaviour (obviously slks are often also associated with speed ). The crash also happened in the early hours so tiredness may have been another compounding factor.

Our local paper said that both families were accepting of the fact that no charges would be brought in view of the injuries.

 

[SilverSaloon]

what a tragic waste of several lives - what gets to me with these things is that all this, for what, saving the cost/hassle of a taxi journey home....

 

[tali]

What i find amazing is that in most cases, i would say 75%, the offender in these types of fatal crashes walks away uninjured - it's always the innocent that suffer.

 

[mb240]

This accident was local to me & I remember it from last year. I was surprised that the couple in the bigger(?stronger) car came off worse. The CLK was a 430 & I always wonder with these big engined cars whether there is excessive speed involved too, but this makes no excuse for the other drivers behaviour (obviously slks are often also associated with speed ). The crash also happened in the early hours so tiredness may have been another compounding factor.

Our local paper said that both families were accepting of the fact that no charges would be brought in view of the injuries.

Even if they were doing 70mph, or 80 or even 90mph, the SLK at 120mph in the opposite direction would have a lot more momentum. That is a horrendous story

 

[Swiss Toni]

Nr Peterborough....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7688674.stm

Jaguar crash death couple guilty

The couple's car hit two people who had broken down on the A1
A woman and her partner have been found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving after their Jaguar smashed into a young couple at 113mph.

Driver Mary Butres, 47, of Stamford, and John Nichols, 57, from Carlby, both in Lincolnshire, had denied the charges at Nottingham Crown Court.

Mark Crompton, 20, and Jodie Brown, 19, of Swinstead, Lincolnshire, were killed on the A1 near Grantham last year.

They were near their broken down car when Butres lost control of the Jaguar.

Butres and Nichols were remanded into custody for sentencing on 21 November.

Recorder Greg Dickinson QC said: "A lengthy custodial sentence is absolutely inevitable."

Previous convictions

The business partners, who also had a personal relationship, had been drinking at Nottingham Racecourse before the crash.

Nichols had decided not to drive home because he was over the alcohol limit so let Butres drive his car, even though she had been drinking.

The court heard the Jaguar hit the broken down Ford Fiesta before ploughing into Mr Crompton, Ms Brown and her brother Nick Brown, while they were walking away from their car to phone for help.

The impact was so powerful all three were hurled onto the opposite carriageway of the road at Great Ponton.


Mark Crompton and Jodie Brown were phoning for help when they were hit

Butres, a boss at a packaging firm, was found to be one-and-a-half times over the legal alcohol limit and had two previous convictions for speeding, the court heard.

The defendants arrived each day at court with their own private security guards.

Nick Brown, 36, who survived the crash with two broken legs, four broken ribs, a broken hand and a broken shoulder, said he was pleased with the verdicts.

He said: "I'm over the moon, I'm pleased to see them go down. I was very confident that they would be found guilty.

"There's never going to be a long enough sentence because we have lost Jodie.

"I just feel for [Butres'] two children and all the workers that they employ because it's not fair on them, like it is not fair on us, that this has happened for one rush of madness."

 

[Swiss Toni]

Hold on it said...

Quote:
Edwards had refused to give a blood sample to police but while he was unconscious in hospital following the crash, nurses took a sample which revealed he had been drinkdriving and had used cannabis.

I'm surprised he was well enough to refuse a breath test in the first place.

If unconscious (for example) the patient is not able to give concent and that is counted as a refusal. The fact that there was a sample to test means it would have been taken for a medical purpose (otherwise the DR is likely to be guilty of an assault) and then some of the blood from the sample left over and in turn seized by the Police.
Very likely that he needed a transfusion and the sample was taken in advance.

 

[JasM]

This is very sad and tragic


I hope the SLK driver gets what he deserves.

 

[C43AMG]

There but for the grace of .........

 

[Uberwagon]

Things like this are very sad indeed.

Nobody knows why the person was driving back, an unthinking moment can destroy your life, other peoples etc, it's an awful thing to happen.

Doing a bad thing doesn't necessarily make you a bad person, just a stupid/ unlucky/ ignorant one.

Thoughts to the families involved.

Dave!

 

[tali]

'Despicable' drink driver who killed two women after stealing Mercedes jailed for 12 years | Mail Online

12 years(in a cushy Playstation 3 jail no doubt) - only after racking up tons of convictions and killing two innocents.

 

[st13phil]

'You have sentenced the families to a life of grief. Their courage and dignity emphasises your utter worthlessness.'

and

'You are one of the very few young men not capable of living in a civilised society.'

Sounds like the Judge was pretty accurate in his appraisal of that particular bit of pond life.

 

[timskemp]

To those who think Jail is cushy and sentencing too light, I know two people who've been at fault in fatal car crashes and the biggest punishment for them is the memory of what happened. There but for the grace of God go us.

 

[prprandall51]

To those who think Jail is cushy and sentencing too light, I know two people who've been at fault in fatal car crashes and the biggest punishment for them is the memory of what happened. There but for the grace of God go us.

Given his list of previous convictions and his complete disregard for others, I doubt that worthless piece of dirt is going to be kept awake at night by feelings of guilt or remorse.

Nor do I think when I read this story "there but for the grace of god go I" mainly because I don't steal cars or drink and drive. Whilst that sentiment could readily be applied in some motor vehicle accidents, I don't think this was one of them.

 

[Mudster]

He's a fine advert for the UK adopting the "3 strikes and out policy" one of the few fine ideas that exists in the American justice system.

 

[DJC013]

What a tragic loss of life ! And i bet the NHS is paying the bill to keep the other driver alive !!