wait for new diesel C class ??

[Stuart O]

There was a rumour that the new diesel engined 204 would be priced v competitively in the market - there are some v tempting finance deals on MB site on current 220 Diesel variants - should I wait a couple of months for the super efficient new engine or will it be OTT price wise ??

 

[Stuart O]

There was a rumour that the new diesel engined 204 would be priced v competitively in the market - there are some v tempting finance deals on MB site on current 220 Diesel variants - should I wait a couple of months for the super efficient new engine or will it be OTT price wise ??

no-one with any views ???

 

[st4]

I'd try and get an outgoing 211 car IMHO- a facelift 220cdi or V6 diesel. Its better value for money as 204 prices are still very high and used ones have done comparitively little depreciation. Until 204s have been out for over 3 years (and a lot of ones back on the used market after PCPs) prices will be high.

 

[jeremytaylor]

I've got a W204 C180K as courtesy car today. It's the third different W204 C180K I've had in the last couple of months, and they have all had the a common fault: A warning that the right rear seatbelt isn't fixed - when there's no-one in the back seat.

 

[Rory]

Found this on PistonHeads today:

"Right the range has been reduced by about 5% across the board; the C350 has the biggest reduction at 6.9% to compensate for the cease of production of the C280. This means the list prices for the diesel Sports are:

* C220cdi Sport (170 bhp)- £27,758.40
* C250cdi Sport (204 hbp)- £28,813.40
* C350cdi Sport (224 bhp)- £32,620.00

They reduced the OTR prices on the 8th May, so the above prices shold now be whats being offered at retailers.

IMO the best option is still the current finance deal on the 220cdi, this engine isn't changing in power, just gaining the 'blueefficieny' rating, so you won't really be gaining anything by hanging on. I'm fairly certain the deals won't continue in Q3 because stock levels are so low, so now is a pretty good time to get out and buy one.

Still no news on the C320cdi being added to the finance deal unfortunately."

 

[Smatt]

The 'Blue efficiency' engines have better economy & lower tax brackets. Some of them have better performance too, compared to the same non blue efficiency engine. The changes are not just confined to the engine either, but depend on the model/engine chosen

Current ones will certainly be cheaper - unlikely to be big discount on new engines for a while.
Depends how much you want to pay, how soon you wish to change, how important efficiency/tax changes are to you.....

 

[st13phil]

...the 220cdi, this engine isn't changing in power, just gaining the 'blueefficieny' rating, so you won't really be gaining anything by hanging on.

As Smatt says, this statement is very misleading. While the 220CDI badge remains the same, the engine itself is the new twin-turbo unit which is much more fuel efficient and in auto form has a CO2 rating of around 20g/km less than the outgoing engine.

That said, the current deals are good so you'd have to factor the lower purchase price against higher running costs. Unless you drive very high mileages and/or intend to keep the car a very long time, my guess is that the outgoing 220CDI would be cheapest.

 

[Rory]

As Smatt says, this statement is very misleading. While the 220CDI badge remains the same, the engine itself is the new twin-turbo unit which is much more fuel efficient and in auto form has a CO2 rating of around 20g/km less than the outgoing engine.

It's not my statement by the way - I pointed out I was quoting a post on PistonHeads.

I guess the poster's point is that the engine is the same power so isn't going to be significantly different to drive, especially in auto form. We all know the CO2 rating often bears little relation to real-world fuel consumption. No idea how much the road tax is affected, but the big gainers would be company car users where the lower C02 and reduced P11D value would both help reduce company car tax.

 

[st13phil]

It's not my statement by the way - I pointed out I was quoting a post on PistonHeads.

That's OK, I saw the quotation marks

While I agree that quoted economy figures often bear little resemblance to the real world, the CO2 number is based on the combined cycle so the delta (around 12%) will probably translate to a similar improvement in mpg which is not to be sniffed at. Mercedes also claim that the new engine has much better torque buildup than the outgoing unit which should make it feel more responsive too.

Having said all that, my guess is that the deals on cars with the outgoing engine probably tip the purchasing decision in that direction for most people.

 

[C240Sport97]

They reduced the OTR prices on the 8th May, so the above prices shold now be whats being offered at retailers.

Reduced? I thought they were going up because the £ is so weak!

 

[Rory]

Reduced? I thought they were going up because the £ is so weak!

That's because another forum member conditioned you to expect that.

In the real world, C Class prices have been clearly too high.


There is some suggestion that MB have recently whacked up parts prices though - so they might be trying to balance the books that way.