93 300TE ABS light on constantly

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JensenHealey

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Hello all
I have a 1993 Mercedes 300TE with the 3.2L DOHC M104 engine. It is a 2wd base model, not the 4Matic type of car. I have been working on the car for some time to revive it from an extended dry storage by the previous owner.
I have pretty much everything done except for a problem with the ABS light on the dash being illuminated 100% of the time once the car is started.
Without moving the car or pressing the brake pedal, once the car is started the ABS light comes on and never goes out.
I have done a lot of research and reading on this issue. The car has the 16 port trouble code breakout box in front of the battery but does not have the light and button built into this box to allow the ability to see the pulse or blink codes without any additional equipment.

I have looked at the over voltage protection relay and ran various tests as outlined below that are applicable to a 9 pin single fuse OVP relay:

Pin 1 should be connected to the positive battery terminal (12v), and Pin 5 should be connected to the negative battery terminal. Check for voltage at all the remaining pins. ONLY Pin 9 should have voltage (12v).
With Pins 1 and 5 connected as above, connect Pin 3 to the positive battery terminal. This is like turning the ignition key. You should hear the click of the relay. Now you should have 12v at Pins 9,8,7 and 2. No voltage should be at Pins 4 and 6. However, Pins 4 and 6 should have continuity now.


The OVP relay passed these tests just fine. I also opened up the hydraulic unit by removing the plastic cover held down by the single screw and looked at the two relays under that cover. I tested those two relays as well and they seem to be operating properly.

I used a Volt/Ohm meter and checked the resistance readings of the three speed sensors (one in each front wheel and one in the differential) and got 0.970 ohms for one front wheel sensor and 0.997 ohms for the other. The rear sensor gave a resistance reading of 0.67 ohms. I also checked the two front wheel sensors using the AC volts setting on the meter while spinning each wheel. I got a signal from each sensor when doing this test. One sensor gave a slightly higher reading in this test than the other. I have not yet been able to test the rear speed sensor in the diff using this same AC volt test but I will do that later today.

I am also going to try pulling each front wheel sensor out of the hubs and cleaning them and looking at the toothed wheel inside.

I built a blink code box using an LED and a momentary push button circuit to see if I could pull any pulse codes out of the car but this did not produce any codes related to the ABS system.

Anyone have any other suggestions about things I should be looking at?
 
Hello all
I have a 1993 Mercedes 300TE with the 3.2L DOHC M104 engine. It is a 2wd base model, not the 4Matic type of car. I have been working on the car for some time to revive it from an extended dry storage by the previous owner.
I have pretty much everything done except for a problem with the ABS light on the dash being illuminated 100% of the time once the car is started.
Without moving the car or pressing the brake pedal, once the car is started the ABS light comes on and never goes out.
I have done a lot of research and reading on this issue. The car has the 16 port trouble code breakout box in front of the battery but does not have the light and button built into this box to allow the ability to see the pulse or blink codes without any additional equipment.

I have looked at the over voltage protection relay and ran various tests as outlined below that are applicable to a 9 pin single fuse OVP relay:

Pin 1 should be connected to the positive battery terminal (12v), and Pin 5 should be connected to the negative battery terminal. Check for voltage at all the remaining pins. ONLY Pin 9 should have voltage (12v).
With Pins 1 and 5 connected as above, connect Pin 3 to the positive battery terminal. This is like turning the ignition key. You should hear the click of the relay. Now you should have 12v at Pins 9,8,7 and 2. No voltage should be at Pins 4 and 6. However, Pins 4 and 6 should have continuity now.


The OVP relay passed these tests just fine. I also opened up the hydraulic unit by removing the plastic cover held down by the single screw and looked at the two relays under that cover. I tested those two relays as well and they seem to be operating properly.

I used a Volt/Ohm meter and checked the resistance readings of the three speed sensors (one in each front wheel and one in the differential) and got 0.970 ohms for one front wheel sensor and 0.997 ohms for the other. The rear sensor gave a resistance reading of 0.67 ohms. I also checked the two front wheel sensors using the AC volts setting on the meter while spinning each wheel. I got a signal from each sensor when doing this test. One sensor gave a slightly higher reading in this test than the other. I have not yet been able to test the rear speed sensor in the diff using this same AC volt test but I will do that later today.

I am also going to try pulling each front wheel sensor out of the hubs and cleaning them and looking at the toothed wheel inside.

I built a blink code box using an LED and a momentary push button circuit to see if I could pull any pulse codes out of the car but this did not produce any codes related to the ABS system.

Anyone have any other suggestions about things I should be looking at?
Hi as the light is on all the time the output from the wheel sensors won’t be relevant. The module will check the resistance from all 3 sensors and then compare the wheel speeds as soon as the car moves. The blink codes are a nightmare to read and the light will only normally go out once they have been read.
my w124 abs light goes out as soon as the engine starts so don’t waste time with the tone wheels on the hubs and diff.
Have you seen this on the ABS system

 
Thanks for the pdf however it details how to test the system with a ABS Test Adaptor 126-589-09-21-00 which I do not have,.
 
I would firstly change every fuse in the main fuse box and clean all the contacts, it solves many issues. I would buy a new OVP relay they come with double fuses now, your one will be quite old. If you have no equipment it is a matter of changing things and start with the least expensive. Try Autodoc online for the OVP it will be half dealer price.
I would also check the relay under the ABS unit cover


Sorry I see that you have done the ABS relay
 
Does a 93 W124 still have an OVP?
 
If the OVP fails or the fuse blows on top of it, then it will trip the abs light. You usually also get a high idle. Check the fuse first.
 
Going at it from another direction! Try tracing back the warning light. It gets it's power ok as it works but the earth is switched one of two ways. Either by a non operating solenoid valve relay in the abs pump unit (small silver one). Try disconnecting the warning lamp connection at pin 2 of the 5 pin connector, this will cut the earth from the pump unit only. If the lamp goes out the issue is around the pump but if it stays on then the fault is either in the ABS control module or the warning lamp brown/yellow wire is earthed somewhere due to rubbing or break down. Should at least halve the places to look. P.S. Regardless of the lamp, does the ABS work?
 
Thanks for the additional test procedure. I will try this today.
BTW, I don't know if it is related to the same problem but the car wants to idle at 1500 RPM
I have seen some folks mention that the OVP relay could have an effect on the way the engine runs.
I did perform a series of tests on the OVP relay and it did seem to pass all of those tests so I am puzzled by this.
 
I went over to my shop to try the diagnostic procedure recommended by wrdcc01 and I have to say I left without any progress.
I have no idea where this "5 pin connector" is located where I could disconnect the wire going to pin 2.
The silver relay under the ABS pump cover is a 6 pin relay and the black relay located in the same place is a 4 pin relay.
The actual wiring connector for the harness connection to the pump itself is a 12 minus 1 connection.
Can you please be more exact in directing me to this "5 pin connector" you are referring to?
Thanks
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Steve
 
Thanks for the additional test procedure. I will try this today.
BTW, I don't know if it is related to the same problem but the car wants to idle at 1500 RPM
I have seen some folks mention that the OVP relay could have an effect on the way the engine runs.
I did perform a series of tests on the OVP relay and it did seem to pass all of those tests so I am puzzled by this.

ABS light and high idle is usually OVP. Did you check the fuse on the top?
 
FYI, I received a new KAE OVP relay today and installed it this evening. After installing the new relay, I started the car and I still have the ABS light illuminated and a 1400 rpm idle.

And after that I did pull the NEW fuse out of the new OVP relay and checked it with an OHM meter. It was fine.
 
What brand did you buy? If it's URO parts, they're usually junk right out of the box.
 
I tested the old relay that was in the car when I got it and it passed the tests but based on advice from another forum I replaced it anyway.
It too works as expected when I performed the same tests on it so I REALLY don't think my problem is the relay at this point and no, I did not buy a URO brand relay.
I have an appointment next week at a local Mercedes specialist that I believe has a Mercedes ABS test unit that plugs into the ABS computer harness in place of the ABS computer.
I hope they will be able to tell me the actual root cause rather than parts replacing advice which seems to be mostly guesses.
I really did hope there was better test diagnostic info that could be done without this special factory ABS test tool but that does not seem to be the case.
 
Just a progress report here on my ABS light on constantly problem.
I took the car to a local Mercedes specialist (not a dealer) and they put the car on their Mercedes W124 ABS diagnostic tool.
This tool plugs into the factory harness in place of the ABS ECU behind the battery.
I believe this is a factory diagnostic tool.

They confirmed that the wheel / diff sensors are all within spec.
They did think there was an intermittent issue with the silver 6 pin relay inside the pump unit.
They tried a known good silver relay and that did NOT solve the problem.
Finally late in the afternoon they called me to say "they give up" and they are NOT able to isolate or repair the issue.
So tomorrow morning I am going to pick the car up pay a small bill of $80 plus tax for their diagnostic time and take the car back with the damn ABS light still on.
I will quiz them for any additional details or suggestions when I pick the car up.
ARGH!!!!
 
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I received a replacement ABS ECU and plugged it into the car in place of the original one (located behind the battery) and no change.
The ABS light is still illuminated on the dash cluster after starting the car.
I am at a complete loss as to what to do next.
 
I'm not sure about your model but it might have the biodegradable wiring harness.
 
I have already replaced the main engine management harness because all the internal insulation on that was gone.
I also repaired (by de-soldering and soldering in new wires) a smaller harness that ran to the various oil pressure switches on the left side of the motor.
 
Another strange thing about this car (again a 1993 300TE w/3.2L M104 motor) is that the end of the ABS harness that is supposed to plug into the top of the ABS ECU does not actually fit the ECU socket correctly. The original ECU that is in the car and the replacement ECU I got the other day have a tooth at the engagement end of the plug like this:

ABS_harness_plug_end2_warr_sm.jpg

But the end of the harness that is supposed to plug into this part of the ECU has no matching slot to engage with this tooth.

ABS_harness_plug_end_warr_sm.jpg

So in order to get the harness to actually plug into the ECU I have to undo the two screws that hold this aluminum piece onto the ECU and remove it so the toothed piece is not there.

ABS_ECU_wire_socket_warr_sm.jpg

Sorry about the slightly blurry final photo

I have called two different MB dealers to ask if the part number on the ECU matches with what my VIN number shows the car should have and they have confirmed the ECU (the original one and the replacement one) are correct for the car.
 
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