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Coming back to MB after a wasted year in an Audi S5?

ShinyF1

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After a mostly enjoyable year in an Audi S5 Cabriolet, I’m not really sure it’s for me. It’s currently in an Audi workshop awaiting a gearbox fix (I hope) under warranty, but it has taken over a month so far (the fault appeared en route to the Goodwood FoS). It has been diagnosed as a faulty PCB in an electronic control unit within the gearbox, but needs a pile of work to access it. I knew the S-tronic DSG gearbox could be vulnerable but I thought I’d done my homework sourcing a late enough car to avoid the problems.

Anyhow it’s shaken my confidence a bit in the car and I’m debating whether to sell it and come back to the MB fold. Part of the problem I think is not being able to find a trusted mechanic to look after it, and the fear that the fault it currently has could be the thin end of the wedge. I have read horror stories of gearbox replacements in S5s - clearly my research was not as painstaking as I thought!

So chewing over my dilemma now. My original thought process was to get an R129 SL, but having got the opportunity to spend some proper time in one, rather than a quick test drive, it was just too small and too heavy to drive. Next target was a post 2012 E350CGI Cabriolet (straight DRLs rather that hockeystick DRLs), but these are rarer than hens’ teeth. Frustrated with that I ended up searching for any cabriolets that were:

Petrol
3.0 litre minimum engine size
Minimum 6 cylinders

That led me to BMW 3 and 6 series, some other random cars and the Audi S5. The Audi was the most interesting so I found what I thought was a good one. For a year it has been good - looks fantastic, very fast, great exhaust note, reasonable handling (and dire fuel consumption) - but not really great. I think it just hasn’t hooked me enough to see past its recent foible and have faith in it in the long term, and that isn’t helped by not having a trusted tech to look after it (in the way PCS did my old S210).

Anyway what do I do? Should I hang on to it and try and get some longer term value out of it and trust that this repair will do the trick, or chuck it in and resume the search for a 2012+ E350cgi / E400 Cabriolet?

As a further twist before I went off on this convertible wild goose chase I was looking for a later E350CGI S212 Estate (hens’ teeth again), but really liked the look of the CLS350 Shooting Brake, but they’re both only really available as a V6 diesel. The CLS would be great but not sure I can go back to diesel.

Any thoughts?

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After a mostly enjoyable year in an Audi S5 Cabriolet, I’m not really sure it’s for me. It’s currently in an Audi workshop awaiting a gearbox fix (I hope) under warranty, but it has taken over a month so far (the fault appeared en route to the Goodwood FoS). It has been diagnosed as a faulty PCB in an electronic control unit within the gearbox, but needs a pile of work to access it. I knew the S-tronic DSG gearbox could be vulnerable but I thought I’d done my homework sourcing a late enough car to avoid the problems.

Anyhow it’s shaken my confidence a bit in the car and I’m debating whether to sell it and come back to the MB fold. Part of the problem I think is not being able to find a trusted mechanic to look after it, and the fear that the fault it currently has could be the thin end of the wedge. I have read horror stories of gearbox replacements in S5s - clearly my research was not as painstaking as I thought!

So chewing over my dilemma now. My original thought process was to get an R129 SL, but having got the opportunity to spend some proper time in one, rather than a quick test drive, it was just too small and too heavy to drive. Next target was a post 2012 E350CGI Cabriolet (straight DRLs rather that hockeystick DRLs), but these are rarer than hens’ teeth. Frustrated with that I ended up searching for any cabriolets that were:

Petrol
3.0 litre minimum engine size
Minimum 6 cylinders

That led me to BMW 3 and 6 series, some other random cars and the Audi S5. The Audi was the most interesting so I found what I thought was a good one. For a year it has been good - looks fantastic, very fast, great exhaust note, reasonable handling (and dire fuel consumption) - but not really great. I think it just hasn’t hooked me enough to see past its recent foible and have faith in it in the long term, and that isn’t helped by not having a trusted tech to look after it (in the way PCS did my old S210).

Anyway what do I do? Should I hang on to it and try and get some longer term value out of it and trust that this repair will do the trick, or chuck it in and resume the search for a 2012+ E350cgi / E400 Cabriolet?

As a further twist before I went off on this convertible wild goose chase I was looking for a later E350CGI S212 Estate (hens’ teeth again), but really liked the look of the CLS350 Shooting Brake, but they’re both only really available as a V6 diesel. The CLS would be great but not sure I can go back to diesel.

Any thoughts?

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R231 SL500 or if budget permits SL63? Bomb proof build, twin turbo V8, silky smooth, a test drive should suffice[emoji6]

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Well choice is very easy...
Mercedes CLS 63 AMG Shooting Brake...[emoji848][emoji16][emoji6]
 
R231 SL500 or if budget permits SL63? Bomb proof build, twin turbo V8, silky smooth, a test drive should suffice[emoji6]

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Meant to say ‘...and four seats’


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Well choice is very easy...
Mercedes CLS 63 AMG Shooting Brake...[emoji848][emoji16][emoji6]

Outside my price range sadly


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Not mine - pit stop near Goodwood, but yes, a very nice house
 
Well the convertible season is coming to a end,come October you want to have sold that S5 if that is what you decide to do,then watch over the winter for one of your hen's teeth cars to turn up.
 
Besides the chocolate gearbox situation, your experience of Audi mirrors mine; good cars that do everything well but nothing great.

You are limited with Mercedes cabriolets engine choices though sadly, what would your budget be for the new car?
 
What I get for the Audi, plus the pennies my old 210 is worth - maybe £15k/£16k - which rather limits my options


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I had a similar dilemma when I needed to replace my Saab 9-3 convertible, still wanted 4 seats and had a teenager who needs plenty of leg room in the back. In a sensible price range, the choice was really limited, the Audi A/S5 range, the Mercedes E class or the Volvo. Volvo is just pig ugly so that one was out.

Tested both of the others and the Audi was far more dynamic but felt a little like you sat on it rather than in it, the Merc less dynamic but better driving position. 2 years on and the wish I had gone for the Audi, the Merc is soooooo boring and actually not that well built, certainly not a premium car. The Audi would of at least had some character.

Also spent some time with the V6 (be it diesel) and that smoother, is not really any quicker in real life traffic to be worth the drop in mpg. Now the Petrol may well be the sweet spot, and have driven a couple and they feel a little more engaging, but I never know how much mileage I will be doing for work, so a V6 petrol doesn't work for me at the moment.

Saying that, I don't dislike it enough to loose a few grand in trading it in, so am going to make some changes to try to make it more engaging and enjoyable. Will then swap it later for something more interesting.

I'd perhaps wait until you get the car back and see how you feel about it when it is fixed. If you are not convinced the fix is final then best get shot, but otherwise I'd take time to consider and only go for what you feel is absolutely right.
 
212 e500 cabriolet

It's the only sensible choice - thou I believe it's a A207 Cabriolet. Go for the 2012 Twin turbo 4.7 V8. Check out my previous threads - rare because only a dozen or so made with this engine in but .. 2 have been for sale this year. Hilariously quick in Sport mode, silly amounts of torque and also a smooth cruiser. Remarkably cheap to run and tax.
 
It's the only sensible choice - thou I believe it's a A207 Cabriolet. Go for the 2012 Twin turbo 4.7 V8. Check out my previous threads - rare because only a dozen or so made with this engine in but .. 2 have been for sale this year. Hilariously quick in Sport mode, silly amounts of torque and also a smooth cruiser. Remarkably cheap to run and tax.

Yes the one that got away! That ad looked too good to be true, car looked grubby in the photos. You struck very lucky there. And I wasn’t quite brave enough to go for the V8.... if only


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Yes the one that got away! That ad looked too good to be true, car looked grubby in the photos. You struck very lucky there. And I wasn’t quite brave enough to go for the V8.... if only

Ahh yes - now I think about it I remember you saying that just after I bought it!
 
Probably the right answer - though a more modest later 350CGI would fit the bill if I could find one.

Still niggled by the outrageous looks of the CLS SB though. Possibly even to the extent of going back to diesel.....


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I came back the other way - CLSSB to E500 Cab, but I do have the old S211 as well to do big car sensible duties.
 
....Saying that, I don't dislike it enough to loose a few grand in trading it in...

Very fair point. I think I need to weigh up what I lose offloading it against what I might lose if underlying gearbox issue gets worse.... rock and hard place

I have teenage girls and one thing the S5 does not have is ‘legroom in the back’, unless of course my wife is driving! That said it is a darn sight better than her Mini


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