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Daylights AND headlights

Warbaby

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I have a 2012 W212 with the lights set to AUTO. During the day the LED daylights switch on and during the night the halogen headlights.

However I see some C and E class cars driving around in the evening with daylights AND headlights on.

What do I need to do to switch both on?
 
Am I alone in being increasingly irked by people driving around with too bright headlights & every single bloody light on the front of their car turned on, regardless of the driving conditions?
 
No but then what irks me are people who flash at drivers with bright headlights in my case standard-fit adaptive bi-xenons (with adaptive high beam assist disabled) I have to resist the urge to blind them... being considerate and all that. Not a great deal that can be done about it but since lowering my E-cabrio it isn't as much of an issue.

I find some DRLs brighter than headlamps in some cases, plus then you have those that fit ridiculous HID kits sans self levelling motors and "aligned" as high as possible.
 
If you are being flashed perhaps it's because you are blinding oncoming traffic.
 
I find Xenons blind me quite badly - even the factory fit ones.
 
I find Xenons blind me quite badly - even the factory fit ones.

Indeed, any badly adjusted headlamp blinds. It's just xenons are that much brighter the affect is greater. I quite well remember the same comments were made when halogen began replacing whatever the standard lights were back then!
 
If you are being flashed perhaps it's because you are blinding oncoming traffic.

And there was nothing I could do about it until I lowered the car - even had it in at the dealer to see if they could adjust the lamps to be at a lower level but they couldn't, got no hope in the GL though.
 
And there was nothing I could do about it until I lowered the car - even had it in at the dealer to see if they could adjust the lamps to be at a lower level but they couldn't, got no hope in the GL though.

I'd suggest they didn't try hard enough! Xenons are partly set/adjusted using STAR and they can easily be set to below the horizontal, in fact they can be set to illuminate the road just a couple of metres in front of you!

I'd agree with the GL or any high ride vehicle it's more likely to dazzle the car in front but on-coming vehicles shouldn't be a problem, or they wouldn't have gained type approval?
 
I have a 2012 W212 with the lights set to AUTO. During the day the LED daylights switch on and during the night the halogen headlights.

However I see some C and E class cars driving around in the evening with daylights AND headlights on.

What do I need to do to switch both on?
I have standard halogen headlight system on mine too. The daytime LEDs go out when the headlamps come on, but on the Xenon system they seem to stay on. I don't think there is any way around it. Also strange is that there are no front fog lights on my Executive SE.
 
I've just taken delivery of a C Class Executive SE as a Company car, and all the fleet ordering docs stated it had fogs front & rear, but none on the front when it arrvied. Re read the brochure and its not clear when the front fogs are fitted.

Warbaby - yes my daylight lights do the same as yours - confusing!!

Neilrr - agree re everyone having loads of lights on , and then there's those with the rear fogs on when its barely misty or just heavy rain dazzling everyone, and making it harder to tell when the brakes go on. Maybe in this age of clever lights they should fit sensors that switch them off when someones behind.
 
I've just taken delivery of a C Class Executive SE as a Company car, and all the fleet ordering docs stated it had fogs front & rear, but none on the front when it arrvied. Re read the brochure and its not clear when the front fogs are fitted.

Warbaby - yes my daylight lights do the same as yours - confusing!!

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If your lights are similar to S class, then the front fog lights are in fact the headlights which swing out and down when in "fog" position. There are no dedicated fog lamps or bulbs.

Also, DRLs remain on with both head and dimmed lights.

HTH
 
Given that is the base model, is it that surprising?
Executive SE actually has an identical spec to Avantgarde except that it adds Audio50 APS Navigation, but loses the Adaptive Xenon light system and therefore has a considerably better spec than the base SE version. The lack of front fogs doesn't bother me but I can't think of many £34k cars without them and I expect the last car I had without them was a mk2 escort as a student! I guess the reason I find it odd is that the cheaper and generally less well equiped SE had fogs even though they had no LED DRLs.
 
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"Cars without fog lights" actually have fogs like tode explained.

The LED DLRs would not remain on when main beams are switched on but on some cars they remain on with lower intensity (at dark it may look like full power) and on some cars those are switched off. I believe there is a control code in the data card for this behaviour, was it some of the K-codes. I assume Richard wanted to check it for this car in question (the OP's car).
 
Hi Richard. I'm rather new at this site and don't have the minimum posts yet to send you a PM. Currently at 9 and counting ;)
 

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