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Hi guys,

I’d be interested to hear your stories on how you first started out working on your own cars,

I’d like to learn but have no idea where to start, and only have a socket set and a few other bits and pieces at the moment. (But willing to buy)

I’ve done basic things like oil changes, filters and the like. However I want to do the real fun stuff :devil:

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I wouldn't, not nowadays ... Far too much electronics/computer involvement.....

Back in the day, ok, 1970's, a socket set and torque wrench would see you through most things ...
 
The funny this is Ill do almost everything on my motorbike. Ill have the thing in bits if something needs doing and not think twice.

Im more reluctant to do anything with the car.

I suppose the question is.... is there anything wrong?
If its due a service maybe start with something relatively simple like air filters*. On Mrs Lfckeepers VW Eos my 5 year old will be doing it this weekend, its that simple, but on the CLS 320 I had, whilst still an relatively easy job, required removal of more parts to do correctly.

*Disclaimer! - some people say air filters need star to tell the car they're new
 
If its due a service maybe start with something relatively simple like air filters*

Yeh done stuff like that, replaced all the filters on the Volvo just recently. As well as the oil. :)
 
I've done tons of stuff over the years but never gearbox, engine of diff stuff. Headgaskets & lots of misc stuff. I've always been happy taking something apart to see how it works & fix it (or not on occasion!) then put it back together again. Started working on cars as soon as I passed my test at 17.

Fell into the IT/tech world 25 years ago so similar environment just less heavy mechanics. It is still ideal for someone who has a logically thinking brain/approach, is methodical, takes their time, is organised & an attention to detail with good documentation is always useful.

I had to install a new front door intercom/access control system recently replacing & retrofitting to an existing setup. The wiring was a mess, not labelled, no documentation so just like many IT environments! I took my time, labelled and was careful not to be too gung ho. Being always able to go back to square one or as it was before starting is useful just in case it goes wrong or the proverbial hits the fan.

I would certainly give it a go. Start slow, read/research a lot, take your time, gradually build up the right tools for the job. When something doesn't come off or loosen it it doesn't happen at it should there is generally a good reason. Maybe you missed removing a screw/bolt or something. Don't force anything unless your sure it just needs some brute force. The internet is your friend like you can't believe. When I started in IT there wasn't much internet unless you were prepared to wait for 14.4 modem pages to load slowly with very little useful content.

It was good learning the hard way though as you get to understand much more to a much deeper level of understanding.

I am one of life's tryers for sure. I have failed at many many things many times but have still done OK. So many times you wonder why but never once did it stop me from trying again. I want to teach myself to spray a car, rebuild an engine, a gearbox, a diff or anything.

Don't be afraid to try & don't be afraid to fail. Learn from it & it will be easier next time. It is amazing what you can achieve when you try & apply yourself properly. What's the absolute worst that can happen as long as you work safe, take no safety risks at all...ever. I double & often treble check as with some jobs you can't make a mistake.

Just start with a few smaller/basic jobs & build your confidence. I am not a mechanic or been ever trained as one. However there are lots of people with less & more brain cells than me working everyday as an automotive engineers.

Go for it! Good luck & keep us posted.

Gotta hit the pillow now as need to be @ PCS sharpish tomorrow!
 
I started off doing easy stuff like oil & filter changes , brake shoes and so forth . Exhaust systems were also easy diy jobs .

The first biggish job was a clutch replacement on my Ponton back in the early 80's : the design of the Ponton series was such that the engine , gearbox and front suspension were all mounted on the fahrenschemel ( subframe ) which could easily be dropped out as a unit , and that was how I did it . Whilst doing the clutch , I also ordered a new starter ring gear and took my flywheel in to Western Mercedes in Edinburgh who kindly heated the new one up and shrink fitted it on for me , at no charge - they told me to bring it in and offered to do it , I didn't ask .

Since then I've done all sorts myself - engine and gearbox swaps , coil springs , suspension rebuilds , brakes ... I did a cylinder head gasket on an Audi years ago , did a clutch in a Polo , water pumps both on the Ponton and on a 190E , replaced the Webasto sunroof on my Ponton , have changed ( non bonded ) windscreens and door window glasses , changed interiors ; upgraded one of my W126's from manual cloth interior to electric , heated , leather interior , after which no one would have known it wasn't factory since I tok everything out of the donor car very carefully and fitted it exactly the same into the other one . Also upgraded one of my 190's to orthopaedic seats , after finding them in a breaker . I've also fitted towbars to most of my cars , usually sourcing them from breakers or from eBay .

My current 190E is a good example : after getting it a few years back I ran it for a year and noticed the signs of head gasket failure , turned out the head was corroded and would need repaired . Since the 1.8L engine was underpowered I decided to look for a 2.3L engine as an upgrade , and bought a known good unit from a fellow member on this very forum for the same sort of money as I'd have spent repairing the old engine . I then went and bought an engine crane to do the swap ( previously used a block and tackle off the steel beam in my dad's garage when he was still around and I was younger ) , it is a handy thing to have . The 'new' engine came with gearbox attached , so rather than split them I just swapped the two lumps over . I had to cobble a few electrical connections since the W201 and W124 wiring differed slightly , but it was not that difficult . Along with the engine upgrade , I upgraded the front brakes to the same spec as the factory 2.3L 190's , with larger , vented front discs from a W124 260E , bought the tool for flaring the ends of brake lines and made up new pipes throughout and fitted new flexible hoses . I previously used to buy ready made brake pipes from the dealers , but these have shot up hugely in price and are no longer cheap ; much easier to buy a roll of Kunifer pipe and unions and make them up as I go . Also bought a vacuum bleeding unit which works off my compressor and makes bleeding and fluid changes easy .

I've had a decent sized compressor for a while and , besides just using it for tyre inflation , also use it for running air tools which are very handy . At some point I'll try my hand at painting , but will start off with easy things like wheels or scrap panels before doing my cars . I have two genuine front wings and rear wheel arch repair sections for the 190 and these will go on sometime soon-ish . I bought a MIG welder a few years back and have made up frames and things but not yet done any serious welding on my cars ( I bought it with the intention of restoring my Fintail , which needed a lot of welding , but that car turned out to be made more out of rust than anything else , so the project was abandoned - only time I've ever done that and failed to get a car on the road - it was bad ) .

Currently the 190 is up on ramps at the front and axle stands at the back with the diff ( which started making a nasty noise ) out . The original diff which went with the 1.8L engine is too short for the car now and I've bought the taller diff from a 190E 2.6 to do in . I discovered the driveshaft flanges are a different size and now just waiting on a friend bringing me a complete rear subframe from a 190E 2.5D which has the same shafts . I'll swap my 2.6 diff into it and clean it up before fitting , and look at doing the subframe mounts when I'm there . Also just bought a rear exhaust section as the old one was rotten and I cut it off while removing the old diff .

Further ahead , I have a fuel tank swap to do in my R129 - I have the new tank in my shed , but I need the 190 finished first , hopefully over the next few weeks . The SL will also need a little bit of welding to the well under the battery tray - I suspect that water has been gathering there somehow as it is hidden and rotted it out , the opposite side well is fine as the drain hole is clear , and there is no other rust - should be an easy little repair and within my abilities . The soft top is now pretty tatty and I'll replace that at some point , having previously stitched the window panels back in , and I need to replace the leather on both front seats - these again are jobs I'm happy to do myself using good secondhand parts .

Over the years , I've assembled a reasonable collection of tools , all the basic hand tools , spanners , sockets , a couple of torque wrenches , several specialist tools for particular jobs , spring compressors , Pela oil extraction tool , compressor with air ratchet and gun , air cutting tool , nibblers , spray guns ... MIG welder , ramps , axle stands , trolley jack and no doubt more that I can't think of right now .

I would suggest starting off with the easy stuff first - basic service items like oils , filters , brake pads - then move on to more advanced jobs as your confidence builds . If there's a Haynes , or other , workshop manual for your car , that can be a help - also remember that YouTube can be a great resource with lots of people filming 'how to' videos and putting them up - there's a guy Kent something in USA who has a site mercedessource who has a lot of very good videos showing how to do jobs on many of our cars .

To begin with you could do worse than get one of the Halfords Professional toolkits , these go on offer a few times a year at half or less of the usual price , and they will also have things like trolley jacks , ramps or axle stands - Halfords can be pricey for some things , but OK for others , and very handy as they are everywhere . Machine Mart and Costco are also useful places for tools , but do shop around and compare .

Most of my hand tools came from Halfords Professional or Advanced ranges and are pretty decent without being Snap On expensive - I do a fair amount of diy and they serve me well . My compressor came from Costco and my MIG from Machine Mart . I also have a machine polisher which came from Machine Mart , as did my engine crane and trolley jack . The crane came in a couple of boxes which fitted in the boot of the R129 , so not hard to get home .

I've worked on older British cars : Minis , Triumph Heralds , Hillman Minx ; VAG , from air-cooled Beetles , through Mk 1,2&3 Polos/Derbys , Golfs , Passats , Audi 80's and 100's , then my various Mercs from the 50's , 60's , 70's , 80's , 90's , and the money pit S203 which wasn't so DIY friendly . I've also had the misfortune to work on some French cars , which I hate with a vengeance .

Do see my sticky thread at the top of this forum 'Safe Use of Jacks' and bear in mind safety first when doing anything at all under the car . Also be safety minded when working around electrics or fuel systems and read up on safety precautions . Basic things like nitrile gloves to protect your skin from fluids , eye protection if working around fluids under pressure or if cutting , grinding or drilling , and , of course , welding - but again read the safety advice before starting on any new activities .
 
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I've done tons of stuff over the years but never gearbox, engine of diff stuff. Headgaskets & lots of misc stuff. I've always been happy taking something apart to see how it works & fix it (or not on occasion!) then put it back together again. Started working on cars as soon as I passed my test at 17.

Fell into the IT/tech world 25 years ago so similar environment just less heavy mechanics.

As a photographer/videographer , I did a fair bit of work with a local steam railway preservation society - once you see guys pulling locomotives and other things apart , cars are 'less heavy mechanics' .

Also , any self respecting petrolhead who likes mechanical stuff should at some point get their hands on steam power - I've had the privilege of getting a shot of driving a steam train and the feeling of power is immense , like you'd never experience in any car ! I believe traction engines are great fun too , though have never tried one .
 
Been doing my own service and most repairs all my driving life (40+ years) the best advise I got and can pass on is never be put off by not having the correct tool for the job, go and buy it, but only at the time you need it! ball joint splitters, spring compressors, calliper piston wind back etc.
 
Lots of factors to take into account when embarking on DIY on todays Mercedes. The days of jubilee clips and hexagonal metric sized bolts are gone replaced by funny spring clips which require special tools to release their tension/remove them, and torx type [ anti tamper= anti DIY] bits or sockets. Likewise the days of trouble shooting vehicle electronics with a simple code reader or avo meter are pretty much gone. You need a sophisticted code reader or Mercedes own Star system to trouble shoot them read /cancel fault codes and read live data. Anything worthwhile is going to cost money and Mercedes in line with many other manufacturers try to keep their technology as proprietary as possible by constantly changing/updating it.
You can save considerable cash by DIY ing the routine service items fluids, filters, brakes and some suspension items but further than that I would suggest requires considerable commitment both monetarily and intellectually [ access to technical information and training] to be successfull.
 
Well many of us when we were younger and the cars less difficult to work on repaired and serviced our cars because we did not have the money to pay to get it fixed,I suppose everybody starts with oil changes and spark plugs,we had a strobe to get the timing about right and of course we waged war with the rust beetle that eat our cars we also changed brake shoes renewed wheel bearings and after a while got into changing clutches,I even had a torque wrench,a set of wheel ramps and a small trolley jack,I would suggest to day that Mercedes cars are too complicated for most DIY people,I applaud you for wanting too with limited experienced,but the rust beetle has been mostly removed from newer cars,and clutch changes are complicated now,just getting to engines now needs serious thinking about,the things I would try to fix would be finding the fault with a diagnostic tool and find out how to test electrical things like a alternator,watching my local mechanic change change the number 3 glow plug on my car he had some self made tools to make the job easier the plug was £11 and he charged £20 for 25 mins work,he noticed there was some crud where the old glowplug sat and so his long airline blew that out a DIY er may have got crud into the bores ,it was just not worth the trouble to fix yourself.
 
After the head gasket blew on my Renault in 1978 I learned not only how to remove the head to replace the gasket but how to rebuild the whole engine because when the head was off I turned the crank and disturbed the wet liners. Ho hum...a steep learning curve.
 
My Dada was a Aircraft mechanic in the Navy Fleet Air arm.
As a Lad I used to watch him, hand him spanners , which led to me being allowed to undo or tighten things up. At 10yrs old Dad had bought me an old BSA 125cc Bantam bike that needed work, I loved it . he said if you fit this up you can use it over the fields etc ...under his guidance that's how I learnt about engines gear boxs etc. As has been said today's cars are so complex electronically its almost impossible. I hear people complaining about garages etc & i have come to this conclusion. Some can fix anything mechanical, some can read a machine but not know how to actually fix it...find a competent person who CAN do both properly & make him/her your best friend! You could go tonight classes ,great fun but in the case of Motor mechanics today the equipment you would need would be price prohibitive for most...even things like presses ,which I seem to have collected lol, are costly ,but the diagnostic equipment is in another price league...but you'll have some great fun, finding out that yes you can worked crunched up upside down, yes nowadays you do need you glasses to see that damn nut, ooh yes metal is really cold in winter lol & Phew that job wasa "B" but I feel GOOD! I can see why my neighbours think I'm mad now I've written it down...
 
Something actually broke on a Honda?!
I find this hard to believe too mine takes a right kicking :)

I spent a good few years working on bikes as I raced Motocross, on cars started out doing basic oil changes servicing etc, then moved to mods. Over the last two years i have built up Supercharged Civic to Fia space race car really enjoyed it, it's still an on going project constant improvement.

I have also got an new project going to build myself a cheap E36 323i Drift car to learn in.
 
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