Dog Guard fitted, any ideas on how to stop dog getting seatbelt?

[BTB 500]

Back in the day we never let our dogs in the 'cars' only because of the size, slobber, hair and number we had, so we bought them their own van/dogmobile. I kitted it out for them to prevent any unwanted jumping out of an open door until we were ready, and we could leave a door or more open and know they were safe inside getting plenty of air if we parked up for a stop somewhere.

We have a caged out Vito as our dogmobile - currently a modest 10 Border Collies. Plus a small Collie X, and a Sheltie.

A friend of mine had a Collie that was badly injured when it jumped out through the passenger window of his Transit while he was driving along. This was some years back before there was any requirement for dogs to be restrained.

 

[ALFAitalia]

This was some years back before there was any requirement for dogs to be restrained.

There still isn't any legal requirement... but common sense should tell you it's a good idea.... its like having you kids unbelted in the car...stupid.

 

[DesireeE]

We have a caged out Vito as our dogmobile - currently a modest 10 Border Collies. Plus a small Collie X, and a Sheltie.

A friend of mine had a Collie that was badly injured when it jumped out through the passenger window of his Transit while he was driving along. This was some years back before there was any requirement for dogs to be restrained.

Sounds like heaven to me and a bonny Sheltie too, gorgeous ... you don't see many of them about these days. We used to breed the Danes and Bulldogs, but our last home grown one Vienna passed on to greener pastures last November, tried going without a dog but didn't last, so we went for something completely different with an English Toy Terrier. Must admit she looks a bit lost in the Tranny ha-ha.



Unhappy tale about your friend's Collie, hope everything was okay with it in the end? The good thing about our Tranny is it has a bulkhead, but when we bought it we asked them if they would cut out the window section for us which they were happy to do. Not only meant we could see our dawgs in the back, but also allowed for more air to get through to them and circulate.

Our Emma Jayne doesn't run loose or sit on our laps in our vehicles, we bought her a purpose built dog bed for each of them, but the first one purchased was put in the conservatory on the sofa. The idea was to get her used to it and it worked, she quite happily pops in and out of that as she pleases and will have the odd 40 winks too. Now when she is in the cars/van, she stays put probably 90% of the time which I think is pretty good for a pup of 5 1/2 months, although there are fastenings from her harness one to one side attached to the bed and one to the other side that clips into the seatbelt fastening, she still has room to move around/lie down and is happy as Larry.

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[BTB 500]

Sounds like heaven to me and a bonny Sheltie too, gorgeous ... you don't see many of them about these days.

He's a 'bi-black' (black & white) too, which is even more unusual. Most people think he's a Collie puppy On the left here (we need to get a picture with our latest 2 pups):

 

[Pontoneer]

There still isn't any legal requirement... but common sense should tell you it's a good idea.... its like having you kids unbelted in the car...stupid.

That’s still allowed too if you have a pre 64 classic that’s exempt from the requirement to have seatbelts .

My kids travelled everywhere in my Ponton and it never had belts . Not a requirement in 1957 .

 

[BTB 500]

My kids travelled everywhere in my Ponton and it never had belts . Not a requirement in 1957 .

My parents had a succession of VW and Fiat camper vans as daily drivers in the '60s and '70s ... the later ones had belts for the driver and front passenger seat but that was it. We used to drive to the South of France with us four kids sitting around the table in the back, playing board games etc.

We had an A40 Farina (see below) before that and my little sister used to travel in the boot area on long runs (e.g. to my grandparents near Nottingham, which was a full day's drive from Middlesex). On one occasion the bootlid dropped down on the M1 ... luckily she didn't fall out.

 

[Pontoneer]

My parents had a succession of VW and Fiat camper vans as daily drivers in the '60s and '70s ... the later ones had belts for the driver and front passenger seat but that was it. We used to drive to the South of France with us four kids sitting around the table in the back, playing board games etc.

We had an A40 Farina (see below) before that and my little sister used to travel in the boot area on long runs (e.g. to my grandparents near Nottingham, which was a full day's drive from Middlesex). On one occasion the bootlid dropped down on the M1 ... luckily she didn't fall out.

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It was one of those , A40 Farina , that wrote off my dad’s Fintail in 1970 , luckily only my dad was in the car .

 

[ALFAitalia]

That’s still allowed too if you have a pre 64 classic that’s exempt from the requirement to have seatbelts .

My kids travelled everywhere in my Ponton and it never had belts . Not a requirement in 1957 .

And much later....Rear seat belts were compulsory fitted equipment from 1986 and it became compulsory for them to be worn in 1991. So as a 70/80s kid with a dad with generally 10 year old cars I never wore a rear seat belt.

 

[Pontoneer]

And much later....Rear seat belts were compulsory fitted equipment from 1986 and it became compulsory for them to be worn in 1991. So as a 70/80s kid with a dad with generally 10 year old cars I never wore a rear seat belt.

Besides the Fintail , my dad had a few Landies for his business , and we usually had a 1964 Series 2 BMS 169B , which had two inward facing rear benches in the back , around the house - it was the gopher van for when anything needed to be picked up or dropped off , and often my mum would be sent off to the motor factors to collect something , or to go down to the yard and pick up a wheel if one of the trucks had a puncture ( it was then up to the drivers to change it ) .

On our trips mum & dad sat up front and my sisters and I just sat in the back , along with the dogs , luggage and provisions for our weekend trips down to Dunbar , where we kept the caravan much of the year . Of course no seat belts in that , can’t even remember front ones , but back then no requirement to wear them , even if fitted .

 

[Pontoneer]

My parents had a succession of VW and Fiat camper vans as daily drivers in the '60s and '70s ... the later ones had belts for the driver and front passenger seat but that was it. We used to drive to the South of France with us four kids sitting around the table in the back, playing board games etc.

We had an A40 Farina (see below) before that and my little sister used to travel in the boot area on long runs (e.g. to my grandparents near Nottingham, which was a full day's drive from Middlesex). On one occasion the bootlid dropped down on the M1 ... luckily she didn't fall out.

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I remember one time the caravan wouldn’t balance and the back end of the car would ground going over bumps or undulations, so we came back up from England with my mum and my sisters in the back of the caravan to balance it out , and me and my dad in the car !

You’d never get away with that these days !

 

[ALFAitalia]

And rightly so.....only animals can travel in trailers!

 

[m80]

And rightly so.....only animals can travel in trailers!

wot,
even w/o a seatbelt?

 

[DesireeE]

I remember one time the caravan wouldn’t balance and the back end of the car would ground going over bumps or undulations, so we came back up from England with my mum and my sisters in the back of the caravan to balance it out , and me and my dad in the car !

You’d never get away with that these days !

That made me chuckle, the things we do to get by or rather get back home I gather in your case, most of us have done daft things I suspect.

One time I recall a group of us all part of our local amateur operatic society decided we would take a trip to the beach, we took a few cars but not enough for the number of folks going, so we piled as many as we could into what we had, sat on laps and in the back of the shooting break - had to be done right and all good fun at the time.

 

[ALFAitalia]

When I was 18 or 19, I took 9 people inc me home to my parents place from Thursdays Night Club in Chichester when my parents were away in Tenerife. I had my dads nearly new Fiesta (I was on the insurance and driving with his permission before anyone says!!). Me in the driving seat, one in the passenger seat and three across the back seat.........everyone except me had some on their lap....so nine in total.....poor car.....at least it was the mighty 1.4S version!! It was about 9 miles like that to my house in the sticks.....I could not even drive across the Oving rail crossing without grounding!!...I was sober.....but still very glad I was not stopped.......happy days!!!

 

[Pontoneer]

That made me chuckle, the things we do to get by or rather get back home I gather in your case, most of us have done daft things I suspect.

One time I recall a group of us all part of our local amateur operatic society decided we would take a trip to the beach, we took a few cars but not enough for the number of folks going, so we piled as many as we could into what we had, sat on laps and in the back of the shooting break - had to be done right and all good fun at the time.

Ah amateur operatics .

When I went to high school , I became pals with this guy who’s mum taught operatic singing ; turned out , bizarrely , that the mother had been a close friend of my mother and this lady used to sing with the big bands including Tommy Dorsey , backing Sinatra ! Harry James too , amongst others . My mum was a classically trained pianist and got gigs playing swing and boogie-woogie with the bands too ! At home she would often rattle off ‘In the Mood’ and would sing the lyrics - ours was never a quiet house . My friends mum lived in a large house , with a living room big enough to lose the grand piano in a corner and always had students round for lessons while we were there . When it was just family , her favourite was to rattle off Nut Rocker , as made famous by B Bumble & The Stingers , but really she and my mum could play anything . Alas both now departed , but I have a large suitcase full of my mum’s sheet music , much of it handwritten by herself . I recently got a piano and plink away at it , but plan to learn after I retire .

I also inherited my mums and my grandfather's 78 rpm records , which are a mixture of everything from opera to swing . Nothing to play them on as my turntable doesn’t do 78 !

Due to my interest in audio , I used to record amateur operatic performances , and later my pals playing in bands in and after school , still have lots of master tapes .

 

[Pontoneer]

When I was 18 or 19, I took 9 people inc me home to my parents place from Thursdays Night Club in Chichester when my parents were away in Tenerife. I had my dads nearly new Fiesta (I was on the insurance and driving with his permission before anyone says!!). Me in the driving seat, one in the passenger seat and three across the back seat.........everyone except me had some on their lap....so nine in total.....poor car.....at least it was the mighty 1.4S version!! It was about 9 miles like that to my house in the sticks.....I could not even drive across the Oving rail crossing without grounding!!...I was sober.....but still very glad I was not stopped.......happy days!!!

I did something similar when it was the 150th anniversary of the Forth Bridge - Huge party down in Queensferry and loads wanted to go , but parking in a field still some distance away was something like a tenner - a fortune in those days . I blagged a Mercedes’ 208 van ( one of the square ones before the Sprinter replaced it ) it was G208 CSF - funny how I can always remember registrations - from work and packed people in the back like sardines , only the short distance from Barnton where we left all the cars , along to Dalmeny , and got everyone in for the one parking fee .

Had to be done ; I got bollocked on the Monday because someone had been looking for the van ; I just shrugged and said I was using it on Friday and just took it home …

 

[DesireeE]

Ah amateur operatics .

When I went to high school , I became pals with this guy who’s mum taught operatic singing ; turned out , bizarrely , that the mother had been a close friend of my mother and this lady used to sing with the big bands including Tommy Dorsey , backing Sinatra ! Harry James too , amongst others . My mum was a classically trained pianist and got gigs playing swing and boogie-woogie with the bands too ! At home she would often rattle off ‘In the Mood’ and would sing the lyrics - ours was never a quiet house . My friends mum lived in a large house , with a living room big enough to lose the grand piano in a corner and always had students round for lessons while we were there . When it was just family , her favourite was to rattle off Nut Rocker , as made famous by B Bumble & The Stingers , but really she and my mum could play anything . Alas both now departed , but I have a large suitcase full of my mum’s sheet music , much of it handwritten by herself . I recently got a piano and plink away at it , but plan to learn after I retire .

I also inherited my mums and my grandfather's 78 rpm records , which are a mixture of everything from opera to swing . Nothing to play them on as my turntable doesn’t do 78 !

Due to my interest in audio , I used to record amateur operatic performances , and later my pals playing in bands in and after school , still have lots of master tapes .

Fantastic story that and what an illustrious mum you had let alone amazing childhood as I can only imagine. Lovely to think you have that eclectic collection of 78s and sheet music, rather sentimental and special: roll on retirement and getting a suitable turntable a must for sure.

Amateur dramatics a big part of our family growing up, my only claim to fame was being part of Bristol Light Opera Club and having principle parts, which was quite an honor, especially as we would put shows on at the Bristol Hippodrome no less. My mum had her equity card, and did a few professional gigs, 3 seasons with Max Bygraves in Babbacombe and he even came to our home more than once, but I was only young so not really star struck then, but I was mighty impressed by his big black Jaguar. Max wrote a song for my mum which she would perform on stage and he wanted to get Olive (Anna Karen) from On The Buses to do so for TV, but he asked mum first if that was okay, pretty big of him I reckon as he certainly didn't have to of course. I have tried to find the clip on YT but no luck, it was one where the cleaner in a strip club always dreamed of being a stripper, then proceeds to sing about it while going through the act and peeling of several layers of ridiculous garments - quite a hoot.

Another time I remember time I remember my mum telling us about when she had a variety show to do give the prisoners at Dartmoor Prison, and that was with Tommy Cooper amongst others. They were being given a lift down and their ride was in a mini, one of the original types, she was in fits as she recalled being in the back seat with Tommy, who was a big fella of course ... happy days eh?

Might be nice if you came across some of those old thespians and could share some of those master tapes you have, although could involve a lot of work I guess.

 

[Pontoneer]

Fantastic story that and what an illustrious mum you had let alone amazing childhood as I can only imagine. Lovely to think you have that eclectic collection of 78s and sheet music, rather sentimental and special: roll on retirement and getting a suitable turntable a must for sure.

Amateur dramatics a big part of our family growing up, my only claim to fame was being part of Bristol Light Opera Club and having principle parts, which was quite an honor, especially as we would put shows on at the Bristol Hippodrome no less. My mum had her equity card, and did a few professional gigs, 3 seasons with Max Bygraves in Babbacombe and he even came to our home more than once, but I was only young so not really star struck then, but I was mighty impressed by his big black Jaguar. Max wrote a song for my mum which she would perform on stage and he wanted to get Olive (Anna Karen) from On The Buses to do so for TV, but he asked mum first if that was okay, pretty big of him I reckon as he certainly didn't have to of course. I have tried to find the clip on YT but no luck, it was one where the cleaner in a strip club always dreamed of being a stripper, then proceeds to sing about it while going through the act and peeling of several layers of ridiculous garments - quite a hoot.

Another time I remember time I remember my mum telling us about when she had a variety show to do give the prisoners at Dartmoor Prison, and that was with Tommy Cooper amongst others. They were being given a lift down and their ride was in a mini, one of the original types, she was in fits as she recalled being in the back seat with Tommy, who was a big fella of course ... happy days eh?

Might be nice if you came across some of those old thespians and could share some of those master tapes you have, although could involve a lot of work I guess.

Thanks , at risk of hijacking this thread , and I'll stop after this , I heard many of the 78 rpm records in my childhood , including Sinatra : 5 minutes more , and Harry James : Strictly instrumental , both readily available online , so no real need for me to play the actual 78's .

What are probably more collectable , I suspect , is my grandfather's collection of Gilbert & Sullivan Operas as 78 rpm albums ( this is where the modern term of an album generally referring to a single or perhaps two records containing multiple tracks came from ; but in these albums , they are sets of maybe half a dozen 12" 78 rpm records containing highlights of one opera , and packed together into a sleeve : hence an 'album' ) . These are family heirlooms , as is my mother's sheet music and will be passed down to my children ; my daughter is interested in music and can play piano , so will probably get the piano and sheet music ... the rest yet to be decided .

I do remember the lady who played Olive , and that she looked nothing like her character . Arthur Robbins , who played her husband , the bus conductor , was quite a well known actor and had many other roles .

I began by helping my pal Colin record some of his mum's amateur opera productions , then got my own tape recorder , ending up with a couple of Revoxes , which I still have . I recorded a lot of bands back in the day , and used to run off cassettes from the reel to reel masters , also still have my Nakamichis that I used to do that . Not many of the bands are well known , but I do still have the boxes of tapes .

These days I record conferences and business meetings , did two today and have one booked to do tomorrow .

 

[DesireeE]

Ah, quite right Pontoneer, thread topic and all that, I don't help as I get a bit excited and am known for going off at a tangent, so back on track as it were ...

Dog guard fitted, does not cover the seatbelt of drivers side in Mercedes GLA, any ideas?

Any news on the dog guard for your MB GLA al99al, would be nice to know if you managed a fix?