E350e hybrid range issue

[Smiley]

My view (and I an EQA on order) is that Mercedes hybrid and electric cars will be worth very little at 8 years / 100000 miles - because that is the Mercedes battery warranty limit. And I can't see how anyone is going to come up with a decent price aftermarket warranty for an 8 year old battery, so who will want to buy one? (especially as the automotive press gets hold of the issue in due course)

I don't know how long the warranty is on the OP's car, but I hope it us 8 years / 100k miles so that he has cover and keep an eye on resale values to know when to replace it without pain !

The batteries in EVs do degrade over time and so the range of the car declines - eg a car that started out with 200 miles will gradually drop and its value will drop accordingly - but even with a range of 50 miles it will satisfy some users for a local car so it will still have some value. As newer batteries and battery mgt systems are improved the speed of degradation should slow. In some cases one or more cells can fail completely which will result in a large sudden decline in range and possible charging problems - this is where it would be very expensive to replace the whole battery - in reality I would expect new repair businesses to be established which would repair batteries by replacing cells rather than the whole battery. It might not be as bad as it would appear today for future older EV values. Hybrids on the other hand....... will be exposed as the con of the 2020s.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

The batteries in EVs do degrade over time and so the range of the car declines - eg a car that started out with 200 miles will gradually drop and its value will drop accordingly - but even with a range of 50 miles it will satisfy some users for a local car so it will still have some value. As newer batteries and battery mgt systems are improved the speed of degradation should slow. In some cases one or more cells can fail completely which will result in a large sudden decline in range and possible charging problems - this is where it would be very expensive to replace the whole battery - in reality I would expect new repair businesses to be established which would repair batteries by replacing cells rather than the whole battery. It might not be as bad as it would appear today for future older EV values. Hybrids on the other hand....... will be exposed as the con of the 2020s.

Good rhetoric, and I’m a fully paid sceptic too, but…

The prices and mileages on used Toyota Prius challenge your theory.

They have been around for more than a decade now, are proving reliable, go on over 200,000 and retain value better than their ICE equivalents.

This one’s on 260,000 and is yours for £4,200. (And these cars do sell, they’re not just advertising)

 

[Ted]

Good rhetoric, and I’m a fully paid sceptic too, but…

The prices and mileages on used Toyota Prius challenge your theory.

They have been around for more than a decade now, are proving reliable, go on over 200,000 and retain value better than their ICE equivalents.

This one’s on 260,000 and is yours for £4,200. (And these cars do sell, they’re not just advertising)



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And if it was serviced at Toyota in the last year, the hybrid battery will still be under warranty

 

[richard]

And if it was serviced at Toyota in the last year, the hybrid battery will still be under warranty

Unlike a Mercedes - although maybe that is what all the manufactures will / will have to do ! (which would be nice, and of course get them a significant percentage of the service business, and possibly a government investigation into anti competitive behaviour ....)

 

[fabes]

I've been in many a Prius, and driven one once and as much as I dislike them, you have to give Toyota credit.

They do the miles, they do the miles per gallon and run okay in ev mode.

I'm not changing my car for many a year, but when I do, I expect it to be a hybrid.

PS for the OP, ref your range, reset the driving history in settings. It often will then read true