E36 c124

[d w124]

I wonder how much i`ll go for 1995 MERCEDES E36 AMG COUPE AUTO SILVER on eBay (end time 13-Dec-09 19:35:04 GMT) No reserve auction

 

[mercboiuk]

They are dreadful photos!
Dark and wet - not ideal for car photography and then there are no interior or engine shots!

ETA: I've just read the spiel in the ad, that's pretty awful, too! An automatic doesn't have a clutch?! Goodness me! I would assume the problem would be a clutch in one of the packs is slipping, so any buyer would have to factor in a gearbox rebuild (the most extreme remedy).

Darren

 

[ACID]

hmm

what you value it??

acid

 

[d w124]

hmm

what you value it??

acid

As Darren ^ said very poor pic and the interior must be worn,plus to tidy the bodywork i would say 5 or 6k tops.That`s only my opinion though

 

[ACID]

As Darren ^ said very poor pic and the interior must be worn,plus to tidy the bodywork i would say 5 or 6k tops.That`s only my opinion though

I have emailed him asking for more pics of the inside and the engine I think the car is worth around 3k in it's current state looks like a bad example I will see what his reply is and what he wants for the car

acid

 

[d w124]

I have emailed him asking for more pics of the inside and the engine I think the car is worth around 3k in it's current state looks like a bad example I will see what his reply is and what he wants for the car

acid

Let`s not forget that the car is rare.Unless he is stupid or you`re very very lucky you never know

 

[Vlad]

Yes it is rare but at the end of the day it needs a lot of money putting into it and thats before you factor in the "Unknowns"......the current owner can't have looked after it very well (I suspect that it would have been a very nice example when it was sold by Ironside six years ago) but look at it now....and then you have to factor in an engine wiring loom (which its likely to need if its not already been done) and I would also be factoring in potential costs for a Head Gasket replacement again if its not been done as that will need doing at some stage on a M104 engine at this sort of mileage.

Its potentially one of those cars that you could end up easily pumping more money into it, than its worth.

 

[manalishi]

For value, I'd start with the asking price for Aka$h's car and then deduct the likely costs and then more still for the hassle of having to fix them (and potentialy discover bigger problems when you do).

I agree with about £3k for a buyer who'd have to pay someone else to do it all, maybe £4k to someone with all the necessary skills/contacts?

 

[ACID]

hey

what kind of cash are you looking?
Does it drive? or will need a Recovery?
How does the engine any pics? and of the inside

Response

Too early at the moment to say,
I would advise you to get it picked up as the clutch is
inconsistent.
The engine is superb and never had a problem.
The inside is tired but not badly worn, there are no holes or tears
in the leather.

 

[Will]

Rare or not, it sounds like a shed to me.

Knackered gearbox, tired interior, bodywork 'not great', 140k miles. These are just the known issues and what has been volunteered by the vendor.

There might not be many about, but you'd need to budget quite a fair bit to make that a tidy one.

Personally, I'd not want to spend much more than about £2/3k on it, as I reckon it could end up costing £5k+ on top of the purchase price and a fair bit of TLC to make it a nice one.

Will

 

[Lugy]

That's breaker material IMO

 

[aka$h]

I emailed the seller, just to get an idea of whats wrong with it. Apparently on the motorway driving from France to London the car was unresponsive he is guessing its a gearbox fault but he now lives in France so doesn't have the time to have it looked at. Seems a little far fetched seeing as you need to be an enthusiast to buy on in the first place especially from Charles.

From experience and looking at the limited photos Id say its going to need new wings and pretty much an entire respray, then you have the wheels too. The wheels are 2 piece split rims, but they cannot be refurbished properly as the bolts wont separate from the face, I tried 3 companies and in the end contacted BBS and they confirmed they are pressed in with a 1 way lock.

Budget 3000 for bodywork and wheels, plus the mechanical side of things. I did ask about history but he skipped the answer to that. If anyone here goes for it, be very sure its a gearbox fault and not an engine associated electrical fault, MB have little to no knowledge on these cars so fault finding is very very difficult. Even the WIS doesnt give you any info on it.

 

[kth286]

AMG Puzzle.

As probably everyone knows, these AMG cars came from the factory as standard cars to AMG to be converted.

The 3.6 engines are basically 2.8 engine bored out with the long stroke crankshaft from the diesel and big valve heads with sporting profile camshafts etc etc.

BUT the 3.2 litre coupe was never made with the 2.8 engine, as far as I am aware.

So, were these coupe models assembled in the same way as the 2.8's ???

 

[janner]

I'm guessing here but the 2.8 engine was probably chosen because there was no C320 to use as a base for the C36 at the time. The E36 is probably just a modified 3.2 engine.

It would be a nice project to change the gearbox, sort the rust, fit a custom headgasket and add the turbos that Pupsi's selling in the classifieds.

 

[d w124]

It would be a nice project to change the gearbox, sort the rust, fit a custom headgasket and add the turbos that Pupsi's selling in the classifieds.

Shhhhh.Keep that quiet,i`m thinking about it

 

[aka$h]

AMG Puzzle.

As probably everyone knows, these AMG cars came from the factory as standard cars to AMG to be converted.

The 3.6 engines are basically 2.8 engine bored out with the long stroke crankshaft from the diesel and big valve heads with sporting profile camshafts etc etc.

The w124 series E36 was produced after AMG became inhouse.

Only the engine black is the same as an E280, the pistons, crank, cycliner head and cams are different. On the electrical side the Loom, ECU and several relay are different. Even the gearbox has different modulators on it, its not just a case of bolting on any 722.3 gearbox. In addition to this AMG cars had sportline suspension fitted as standard and AMG tuned suspension was an extra. The differential was different and although its not documented is does drive like it has a mechanical LSD. Brake servo and cyclinder are also upgraded.

 

[j@stuttgart p]

Don't the later c124 auto boxes suffer from gear slip between 2nd and 3rd heard this many times, and i know the newer auto mercs have a wet clutch in the auto box as they break up mainly on diesel c classes as my mate has a mountain of broken boxes outside his merc garage

 

[aka$h]

Just had a reply to the following question:
What is the cars service history like? And where have you had it serviced in the years you have owned it? Has it had a new engine wiring loom, head gasket and/or a water pump fitted?

Reply:
Hi
The car had a full service history up to me buying it. Then I took
it to France where I had a local Garage look after it for me.
I had the central locking unit replaced by Mercedes in Bergerac
otherwise no other parts changed.
thanks