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Hannibal ??? - I'm sure he had EMail :eek:

Cuban can you elaborate on - They run in an "open-loop" ?

Adam
 
I have followed a number of these threads over time, mainly because I am interested in performance/economy gains. What I am interested to know is what makes the difference between the £300 promises and the £1000+ promises of Brabus and the like. More specifically are we paying a fair premium for the big name brands just because they are big names or is there a genuine difference?

Is it fair to make a generalisation and say all those who charge below £x can't be providing a good product? Moreover what are the parameters for distinguishing good/bad, anecdotal reports of 'substantial' power/economy gains, reliability etc or is there a more scientific approach?

Hope that all makes sense :confused:.
 
Price has everything to do with image and marketing and nothing to do with product. Re maps can be downloaded for about £5 each.
 
The big brands - such as Brabus for example - do offer some kind of guarantee, compliment your warranty, or preserve your car warranty, which in itself is worth a premium.
 
Price has everything to do with image and marketing and nothing to do with product. Re maps can be downloaded for about £5 each.

This was what I was trying to get at, I am always suspicious of a 5 or 6 fold difference in price - especially where brands are involved.
 
Well Brabus is MB approved...BUT even for this it reduces the 3 year unlimited warranty to a 3 year 60,000 mile one....so they must have concerns even with Brabus......and if I recollect they dont recommend using the Brabus upgrade if your car has done over 18,000 miles.....:eek:
 
Hannibal ??? - I'm sure he had EMail :eek:

Cuban can you elaborate on - They run in an "open-loop" ?

Adam

Simply put, open loop means to set a required value in the hope that it is reached, without controlling it using a feedback signal (which is closed loop).

It's like going to the market blindfolded and handcuffed: you can ask a seller to put 10 apples in your basket; and if he's honest you'll get 10, but you may not. If you could see the apples or feel them, you would know that you really had 10. Should you have received 9, you would be in a position to do something about it.

Greetings
Matt
 
Dieselman you have hit the nail on the head! TUV means nothing and dealers will sell anything to increase their margins. I wonder if SEAT, AUDI or PUG would use these devices on their race cars??? :rolleyes:

I detect the whiff of sour grapes:D
 
Or is it too much diesel/smoke coming out of the exhaust pipe?? :p

Sorry to disappoint the experts but the car's just fine and running even better than before. So, it's all good news!! :D
 

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