Emergency vehicle detection system

[moonloops]

Fools and their money....

Not sure if anyone else has noticed but there are no police around any more, I've certainly not seen any last 18 months or so...

 

[alzieboy]

All I want is my iphone 4 to work in my E350Coupe via the Mercedes internet function

 

[Alfie]

Presumably that's the corner of the market you are targeting then? Very public spirited!

In so far as 'speeding offenders' are concerned, I cannot see any use whatsoever for this gadget, other than as an aid to speed limit observance. Anyone using one would at certain times and in certain places hear so many bleeps (or however it warns you) that they would be permanently observing the speed limit. In that respect it would be a road safety aid.

I imagine that the greater part of enforcement these days is by camera, and that penalties issued by a police patrol are very much the exception rather than the rule. Can't remember the last time I saw a patrolling police car on the motorway, although I have on very rare occasions seen unmarked police cars.

An utter waste of money, and anyone who has ordered one, other than burglars etc., hasn't thought it through.

I can't see them being a success.

Wouldn't it be a bit of a bugger Alfie, if someone used one to burgle your house, or nick your car?

Or, as pointed out by the vendor of this trash, successfully evade capture after having burgled your house, or knocked off your car from the drive.

For the record, I am not targetting any part of the market at all. We dont even sell them yet. However, if a customer comes in enquiring about one I will gladly sell him one. What he uses it for is HIS business, not yours and not mine.

As for burgling my house, I fail to see a). how anyone would know where I live, other than friends and trusted forum members , B what one of these devices would do to enhance his/her ability to actually locate my house and rob it! Burglaries are most usually carried out by opportunist thieves looking to get some quick cash. They are not the sort of criminal that will be interested in spending £1000 on such a device. I imagine those that do spend that sort of money are probably involved in crime at a level that would mean they are on the police radar already and not your petty car/house thief.

I think you have limited your view on the device.

 

[MarriedBlonde]

Probably, but I think fewer and fewer forces 'patrol' motorways any more. It certainly doesn't happen on the M25 or M3 (according to a friend of mine who's in a position to know) - if you see a vehicle it will be on its way somewhere specific, and is unlikely to be interested in your speed unless you are doing something silly.

You dont often see marked cars on the m3 (or m27) very often but they do aptrol occasionally. There are always unmarked cars on them though.

J.

 

[DSM10000]

You dont often see marked cars on the m3 (or m27) very often but they do aptrol occasionally. There are always unmarked cars on them though.

J.

A dark metallic grey Skoda Octavis VRS was quite a regular sight!

 

[Alfie]

A dark metallic grey Skoda Octavis VRS was quite a regular sight!

I've seen Skoda's and BMW unmarked cars on the M3 and M25. Rarely see a marked traffic car these days.

 

[Spinal]

I drive quite a lot, in the range of 100-400 miles a day, Mon-Fri... I see my fair share of marked police cars, usually sitting on a raised portion of the motorway side where they can see quite far/well.

So I do see the point of such a device... that said, why not just use Waze? Works on almost any smartphone, and does traffic routing as well... oh, and it's free...

M.

 

[MarriedBlonde]

A dark metallic grey Skoda Octavis VRS was quite a regular sight!

Yep thats still going around, I was stopped by a silver VRS one not long ago and there is also a dark blue 3 series, se spec, that is a round a lot.

J.

 

[meeeb]

I can see an obvious use for habitual speeding offenders and those who operate on the wrong side of the law habitually.

and those on the wrong side of the law dont care what else alerts them as long as they get an alert!

Presumably that's the corner of the market you are targeting then? Very public spirited!
Wouldn't it be a bit of a bugger Alfie, if someone used one to burgle your house, or nick your car?

However, if a customer comes in enquiring about one I will gladly sell him one. (A) What he uses it for is HIS business, not yours and not mine.

As for burgling my house, I fail to see a). (B) how anyone would know where I live, other than friends and trusted forum members , B what one of these devices would do to enhance his/her ability to actually locate my house and rob it! (C) Burglaries are most usually carried out by opportunist thieves looking to get some quick cash. They are not the sort of criminal that will be interested in spending £1000 on such a device. I imagine those that do spend that sort of money are probably involved in crime at a level that would mean they are on the police radar already and not your petty car/house thief.

(D) I think you have limited your view on the device.

(A) Crime is everybody's business.

(B) I meant by chance, not by design. An opportunist perhaps?

(C) Don't be too sure of that.

(D) Correct.

 

[markjay]

The same logic that applies to other things from selling knives to remapping cars, should apply to this device.

Where a product has potentially both legal and ilegal use, it is reasonable to sell it UNLESS you have good reason to believe it might be used illegally by the buyer.

I would expect a shopkeeper not to sell a meat cleaver to an angry young man who rushes into the shop with great haste following a loud argument on the pavement outside... but if an elderly woman walks into Sainsburys and buys a kitchen knife, you can't expect the staff to assume she might be planning to murder her husband?

 

[Sp!ke]

Oh I don't know...based upon the frosty reception I'm getting tonight In my household, I'd be alarmed to learn the missus had bought a new knife.

 

[Teflonso]

I see a massive market among deaf drivers and those who have the boom base too loud (and will be deaf very soon). I usually hear the siren and often its direction yonks before I see the blue lights.

As for the other part of the discussion:

• Burglaries are not just opportunist events and such felons frequently have it away on their toes, as they say. If someone is going to break into a home for the keys to the car, I'm sure he'd love to have one of these devices ready to plug in.
• Thieves no longer have scanners. Tetra radio is encoded. We are a long way from the days when you could listen to the law at the top end of the VHF spectrum.
• Clearly a mildly useful device for those who habitually wallop along at illegal speeds and more legal than a laser jammer, which is what they really need to avoid the points.
• If it needs a separate aerial (with a new hole in the wing?) then it's a non-starter either for lead foot man or thieving scroat. No-one wants a 1970's hole in thier car or a cable dangling from a window and Mr car thief won't have time to install it.

No, stick with the deaf folks and hip-hop devotees. It's a sure winner on Dragon's Den.


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[Target Blu Eye]

Target blu eye

Hi All

Let me introduce my self first, Naeem Khokhar MD at CBS Automotive the UK distributor for Target Blu Eye, I don't want to go on about the benefits of Target Blu Eye just to say if anyone has any questions feel free to contact me directly or through the forum.

01223 56 30 30

We fitted a Target Blu Eye in a 2014 ML this week. I have the photos if any one want's to see a Target Blu Eye in the car just drop me a mail.

naeem@select-cbs.co.uk

 

[MancMike]

Can it be mandatory that all the idiots driving with headphones in have these fitted?!

I'm sick of seeing an ambulance struggling to get through and the person who hasn't moved out of the way has white ear buds stuck in their ears. Completely degrades their spacial awareness and makes it much harder to be aware of emergency vehicles in time.

 

[moonloops]

Way pay £1k for hardware when you can use Waze on your mobile - far better having advanced warnings about jams and emergency service locations from other road users around you.

 

[219]

There is a new device on the market that provides motorists with the ability to detect emergency vehicles in their vicinity and whether they are getting closer or not. Here is a brief summary of what it does;

The innovative and new traffic safety system Target Blu Eye consists of a central unit, a control display and an external antenna. The system is based on the Airwave (TETRA) network. If an emergency service, e.g. a police car, is nearby, you will be warned in advance with an acoustic and visual alert. The signal strength meter on the control display allows you to see at first glance whether an emergency vehicle is approaching you or moving away from you.

Acoustic warnings
The communication system used by emergency services in your country generates four types of communication patterns. Target Blu Eye recognizes all four patterns and produces four different acoustic signals. All signals indicate the presence of an emergency service close to you. For more detailed information, go to the user manual.

Visual warnings
Besides acoustic warnings Target Blu Eye also generates visual warnings by means of the signal strength meter on the control display. If an emergency vehicle approaches you, regardless from which direction, the signal strength meter gives you an estimated indication about the distance between you and the emergency vehicle. For more detailed information go to the user manual.

Sensitivity mode
Two sensitivity modes can be selected on the Target Blu Eye control display:

1.Highway mode: in this mode Target Blu Eye offers the highest sensitivity, which allows the system to recognize emergency services from a large distance.
2.City mode: in this mode Target Blu Eye offers a lower sensitivity. This mode is recommended for use in urban areas.


As this device is not a camera detector or list of camera locations it doesnt fall foul of the French ruling on camera detecters and their ilk.

It retails at £999 inc VAt but there are some early deals to be done


We have already taken some orders.

All very nice , but I find that my Mk 1 eyeballs , and OEM human ears give me adequate warning of emergency vehicles when I require it .

 

[219]

Scanners don't pick up Airwaves/Tetra, which are encrypted mobile phone based signals.



Also, Fire appliances don't use Tetra (at least they don't up here) but for ANPR vehicles that usually carry several handsets as well as the in-car set, they'll do well.

Our appliances (SFRS) use airwave to communicate with the control rooms and other mobile units , but also have fireground radios ( which I think are just short range VHF walkie-talkies ) to communicate with individual firefighters .

Specialist units and officers have airwave sets in their cars .

 

[MancMike]

Way pay £1k for hardware when you can use Waze on your mobile - far better having advanced warnings about jams and emergency service locations from other road users around you.

Waze just tells you there's a plod sat in a car somewhere if someone has reported it on the app.

This system tells you there's an ambulance screaming up the road half a mile back so you can prepare earlier and that there's a police car about to go shooting through a crossroads you're about to go through.

 

[boxbrownie]

Can it be mandatory that all the idiots driving with headphones in have these fitted?!

I'm sick of seeing an ambulance struggling to get through and the person who hasn't moved out of the way has white ear buds stuck in their ears. Completely degrades their spacial awareness and makes it much harder to be aware of emergency vehicles in time.

Should have been on the Arterial Road in Southend on Saturday, thick traffic hardly moving and in my RVM about 300 yards away was what looked like an emergency removal truck big white truck, blue lamps all over and sirens whooping.......Almost everyone saw it coming and moved, all except the knob two cars in front of me, sat almost on the centre line looking forward through the traffic, the truck came up behind them at a rate of knots and then sat about a foot from the bumper........eventually the car moved over very rapidly after obviously being completely oblivious, as it past out of the passenger window of the truck came a camouflaged arm with a very strange hand signal, must be something the Army Bomb disposal unit use all the time

There was a major bomb scare at Southend Airport......never seen so many cops before, not even around Hendon