Evergreen tyres

[s88]

Looked at a car today at a MB dealer, and noted the Evergreen tyres on the rear.
Fronts may have been contis and well worn.

I mentioned that anything called Evergreen is likely to be from Taiwan and a quick look on the internet suggest Chinese.

Anyone had any use from Chinese tyres?

 

[A-AvantGarde]

Anyone had any use from Chinese tyres?

Don't have any experience of them I'm afraid. However, I also was looking at a used car at a MB dealer recently and was surprised to see that it had Wanli tyres on it (they're also Chinese).

 

[jaymanek]

Budget tyres, they are everywhere... Some of these weird and wonderful sizes means that car dealers just do not have the margin to be putting on branded tyres.

 

[s88]

Thanks, Jay,
but when I look at a car and it has odd tyres front and back, little tread on some etc then it starts to put me off.
Especially when buying from a main dealer.

 

[PXW]

Thanks, Jay,
but when I look at a car and it has odd tyres front and back, little tread on some etc then it starts to put me off.
Especially when buying from a main dealer.

Depends on the price, doesn't it? Tyres are easily swappable if you don't like what's there. But my guess would be that for most ordinary driving you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.

 

[grober]

Depends on the price, doesn't it? Tyres are easily swappable if you don't like what's there. But my guess would be that for most ordinary driving you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.

Till you come to the first bend in the wet or have to clap on the anchors in a hurry somewhere. I suspect the main problem with Chinese tyres is in the tread rubber mix . I would be extremely wary of buying a used Mercedes from an MB dealer who fitted such tyres- if they are skimping on those what else are they skimping on? There are lots of reasonable mid range tyres out there they could fit without stretching to Michelin or Continental and don't think they will be paying retail either

 

[E55BOF]

Go to Tyre reviews, tests and ratings | the online tyre guide for reviews. Not all bad by any means...

 

[grober]

Go to Tyre reviews, tests and ratings | the online tyre guide for reviews. Not all bad by any means...

Tis true they appear to get favourable reviews from owners which is interesting. I would however feel happier to read how they perform in one of those comprehensive back to back performance tests with other makes- not that they are without flaws also.

 

[PXW]

Till you come to the first bend in the wet or have to clap on the anchors in a hurry somewhere. I suspect the main problem with Chinese tyres is in the tread rubber mix . I would be extremely wary of buying a used Mercedes from an MB dealer who fitted such tyres- if they are skimping on those what else are they skimping on? There are lots of reasonable mid range tyres out there they could fit without stretching to Michelin or Continental and don't think they will be paying retail either

The main point I was making was that if the overall deal price is right for the OP then it's easy to change footwear. But I would stand by my aside comment...for the majority of drivers and for the majority of time budget tyres will perform perfectly adequately. If you are the kind of driver who goes to the last tenth, then I agree there will be better rubber out there. You pays your money...

 

[crockers]

Imagine its a dark wet night. You're driving home with the family all asleep in the car. Suddenly as you approach a corner a deer appears in front of you - or a unlit farm truck pulls out of a blind turning.
You slam on the anchors. Now ask yourself - are you pleased you saved a few pounds and bought budget tyres.

 

[moonloops]

Depends on the price, doesn't it? Tyres are easily swappable if you don't like what's there. But my guess would be that for most ordinary driving you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.

I think it's more of a case of if they have scrimped on a safety item like tyres what else have they crimped on ??

 

[philipdayton]

Go to Tyre reviews, tests and ratings | the online tyre guide for reviews. Not all bad by any means...

The problem with owner reviews of tyres tend to be that those who have tried to save a few quid on cheaper rubber tend to defend their decision to the hilt and are the last to admit they are crap even if they are...

 

[jotter22]

so your saying all budget tyres are crap but the people who buy them cant admit to that for fear of looking like a cheapskate? Rubbish!
Do you think they just sling them together with no testing? Budget tyres are what they are and some people only need budget tyres!

Tony.

 

[moonloops]

so your saying all budget tyres are crap but the people who buy them cant admit to that for fear of looking like a cheapskate? Rubbish!
Do you think they just sling them together with no testing? Budget tyres are what they are and some people only need budget tyres!

Tony.

Go and put a set of "Triangle" tyres on your car next time. See how long you last in the wet. I lasted 15 mins after buying a car from a dealer with a newish set of them on. Drove out of the dealers, across two roundabouts and headed directly to the tyre depot quick smart.

 

[E55BOF]

Funnily enough, I've seen much the same comment regarding Triangle tyres (Triangle Talons, I think) on Saab websites. I don't think I would buy them. On the other hand, I have Neutons on my 9-5, and they feel much better than the Conti SC2s they replaced and work fine, wet or dry.

 

[jotter22]

Go and put a set of "Triangle" tyres on your car next time. See how long you last in the wet. I lasted 15 mins after buying a car from a dealer with a newish set of them on. Drove out of the dealers, across two roundabouts and headed directly to the tyre depot quick smart.

But i dont class cheap and budget as the same quality!
I had Avon zv5 on my Volvo (considerably more powerfull than my 320) and could not fault them and i class them as budget! Not wanli or triangle death slicks!

Tony.

 

[PXW]

I think it's more of a case of if they have scrimped on a safety item like tyres what else have they crimped on ??

Not sure we know enough about the vehicle to answer that. If it is say 2-3 years old, 40k miles, with full MBSH/reputable Indy history then probably nothing has been scrimped on, apart from the tyres. In which case, if the price is right, buy it and change the tyres if thats how you feel.

If it's ten years old, 150k on the clock and just has a few random local spanner stamps then, yes, I might take the tyre state (and particularly the fact that some are fairly far worn) as an indicator.

 

[s88]

Not sure we know enough about the vehicle to answer that. If it is say 2-3 years old, 40k miles, with full MBSH/reputable Indy history then probably nothing has been scrimped on, apart from the tyres. In which case, if the price is right, buy it and change the tyres if thats how you feel.

If it's ten years old, 150k on the clock and just has a few random local spanner stamps then, yes, I might take the tyre state (and particularly the fact that some are fairly far worn) as an indicator.

Gents,

it was a one owner 2010 E class 350, with around 34,000miles on.

 

[philipdayton]

so your saying all budget tyres are crap but the people who buy them cant admit to that for fear of looking like a cheapskate? Rubbish!
Do you think they just sling them together with no testing? Budget tyres are what they are and some people only need budget tyres!

Tony.

In essence.....YES. Budget tyres are just that, made on a budget! There is always a compromise on quality.
People who compromise on quality tend to defend their decision, human nature. If someone goes on a forum claiming that all those who decry budget tyres are talking tosh....then goes straight on at a roundabout the next day, GENERALLY speaking they won't come back on and say "oops, you know what, you guys were right" they just modify there driving accordingly, which Is dangerous, as one day you may be in an emergency situation where you cannot do that.

 

[moff]

But i dont class cheap and budget as the same quality!
I had Avon zv5 on my Volvo (considerably more powerfull than my 320) and could not fault them and i class them as budget! Not wanli or triangle death slicks!

Tony.

Avon's aren't budget tyres.

They are widely used in Motorsport and I can imagine that there has been a whole lot of research carried out by Avon.

I'm thinking the cheap Chinese brands are cheap and crap for a reason.

You pay for what you get, this isn't always true, but I believe it is with tyres in most cases. Only exception would be brands that are new but intend to be 'premium' eg Falken, Avon, Toyo.