Formula 1 2025

[GeeJayW]

I think since the departure of Newey the performance has affected last years car compaired to the beginning of the season. I can't see them becoming the dominant force they where.

Well, according to Horner, Newey had no input in the development of the ‘24 car (and implied that he shouldn’t let the door hit him in the Rse on the way out). Must be purely coincidence that the performance of the car dropped off at pretty much the same time that Newey stepped away from involvement in RBR’s F1 activities. That said, the rules clarification reinforcing the ban on devices that provide asymmetric braking also seemed to have happened at same time as the mid-season loss of performance from RBR. That too must be a coincidence though, because they didn’t have such a system fitted… honest!.

 

[C43AMG]

Well, according to Horner, Newey had no input in the development of the ‘24 car (and implied that he shouldn’t let the door hit him in the Rse on the way out). Must be purely coincidence that the performance of the car dropped off at pretty much the same time that Newey stepped away from involvement in RBR’s F1 activities.

Typical of Horner. He reminds me of a very Dodgy secandhand car salesman, all he needs is a Sheepskin coat and i'm sure he has a flat cap somewhere.

 

[abecketts]

Is it wrong of me to say F1 todays is dull as dishwater? Oversized cars, circuits that haven’t grown enough to accommodate the larger cars, dull sounding engines and too much tech. Either that or I’m just old.

 

[SmartAmg]

Is it wrong of me to say F1 todays is dull as dishwater? Oversized cars, circuits that haven’t grown enough to accommodate the larger cars, dull sounding engines and too much tech. Either that or I’m just old.

Nope, not wrong at all. I don't mind F1, but much prefer the likes of the BTCC.

 

[GeeJayW]

Is it wrong of me to say F1 todays is dull as dishwater? Oversized cars, circuits that haven’t grown enough to accommodate the larger cars, dull sounding engines and too much tech. Either that or I’m just old.

I wouldn’t say you’re wrong, and think a lot depends on point of view. I find F1 fascinating in so far as the cars, teams and drivers operate at the very pinnacle of what is possible.

 

[GeeJayW]

Nope, not wrong at all. I don't mind F1, but much prefer the likes of the BTCC.

I find BTCC to be glorified banger-cars driven by a bunch of ageing fat blokes that wouldn’t even fit in an F1 car, much less drive one on the limit. Not my thing, even though every one of them would be quicker than me (and most other people). That said, I do watch it when it’s on because it’s still motorsport, heck I have watched banger cars…

Besides F1, I prefer WEC, GT, Superbikes (WorldSBK and BSB) and MotoGP.

 

[SmartAmg]

I find BTCC to be glorified banger-cars driven by a bunch of ageing fat blokes that wouldn’t even fit in an F1 car, much less drive one on the limit. Not my thing, even though every one of them would be quicker than me (and most other people). That said, I do watch it when it’s on because it’s still motorsport, heck I have watched banger cars…

Really? Sure your watching BTCC? Coz it's a different one than, I watch.
Still it's all about opinions.

 

[GeeJayW]

Really? Sure your watching BTCC? Coz it's a different one than, I watch.
Still it's all about opinions.

Yes really.

I have watched BTCC on TV and live at Oulton Park, (also Silverstone though that really was a long time ago) and met a few of the drivers who were/are real characters and could/can drive. I just find myself more than a little underwhelmed by the cars which to me as a spectator, are pedestrian and dull even when they are on the ragged edge.

I’ve never stood trackside and been blown away by BTCC. On the other hand F1, F3, WEC, GTs, Superbikes, do that every time.

Thing is, motorsport (like music) is a broad church and all are welcome.

 

[SmartAmg]

Yes really.

I have watched BTCC on TV and live at Oulton Park, (also Silverstone though that really was a long time ago) and met a few of the drivers who were/are real characters and could/can drive. I just find myself more than a little underwhelmed by the cars which to me as a spectator, are pedestrian and dull even when they are on the ragged edge.

I’ve never stood trackside and been blown away by BTCC. On the other hand F1, F3, WEC, GTs, Superbikes, do that every time.

Thing is, motorsport (like music) is a broad church and all are welcome.

Fair enough. Each to there own.

 

[SpikyMikey]

Nope, not wrong at all. I don't mind F1, but much prefer the likes of the BTCC.

I watch F1, but also prefer BTCC and even more, the Aussie V8 Supercars series.
The racing I really used to enjoy was back in the good ol' days when BBC Grandstand used to show Rallycross from Lydden Hill and other places.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

The thing I like most about BTCC and British GT is how close you can get to the action. It’s an easy, affordable and very accessible way of watching motorsport in person.

 

[AMGeed]

^ Yep, a day out at Brands Hatch for the BSB or GT racing can be as little as £30 for the day.
How much is F1 at Silverstone now, just for race day? No comparison I'm sure.

 

[SpikyMikey]

^ Yep, a day out at Brands Hatch for the BSB or GT racing can be as little as £30 for the day.
How much is F1 at Silverstone now, just for race day? No comparison I'm sure.

We had some cracking days out at the BTCC race days at Brands and Thruxton back in the day.

 

[Chrishazle]

How much is F1 at Silverstone now, just for race day? No comparison I'm sure.

Quite a few years ago daughter bought race day GA tickets including off site parking, for wife and I, they cost £160 then so I dread to think what they are now. Be cheaper to take the car cross channel for Spa race day!!

 

[Dippo]

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[Mactech]

I find BTCC to be glorified banger-cars driven by a bunch of ageing fat blokes that wouldn’t even fit in an F1 car, much less drive one on the limit. Not my thing, even though every one of them would be quicker than me (and most other people). That said, I do watch it when it’s on because it’s still motorsport, heck I have watched banger cars…

Besides F1, I prefer WEC, GT, Superbikes (WorldSBK and BSB) and MotoGP.

I like most forms of motorsport, but I was forced into BTCC in 1993 as I was working for Toyota at the time and the Le Mans project was coming to and end.
I did Le Mans in 92 and 93 for them but for 93 they wanted to ramp up their BTTC involvement. I managed to get the cars going quite well and by the mid season Silverstone GP support race we were well on the pace. My drivers in that race were Julian 'Wobbly' Bailey and Will 'Shippa' Hoy....

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Things didn't go quite as planned! Star of the show was, as ever, Murray Walker.
As an insider in motorsportI have always preferred the more strategic sports car racing, but can understand the appeal of much shorter races from a spectator perspective.