Fuel pricing - time to take that tough decision?

[Deleted member 159894]

+1

It’s incredible how many experts there are on the use, transport and storage of hydrogen unyet car manufacturers and fuel companies who have invested billions in R&D are still struggling to get a safe, scalable and cost effective solution to market.

I put it down to the ‘anything but electric’ mentality.

My preference would be synthetic petrol and bin diesel but that’s pretty wishful thinking I suspect.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

We are really rip off Britain ........why are Smart Meters being pushed by the Government?.......the cost of electricity will probably go sky high at busy times especially when all those electric cars are being charged!

The Government simply want all the money back after Covid and one way they do it pushing electric cars when they know full well that Hydrogen motors are the way to go.

What you’ve written implies that the Government want electricity costs to dramatically increase and the way they’re making it happen is to encourage the use of smart meters, is that right?

Also what you’ve written implies that the Government need to make a quick Buck to pay for the cost of COVID, and to do that then they are pushing the use of EVs, despite there being a viable Hydrogen alternative, is that right?

I struggle to follow the logic or motive. The government don’t need to do these things to raise taxes. If there’s a budget deficit then they can just increase taxes. It’s a whole lot simpler and get’s “their” hands on “our” money even more easily!

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I put it down to the ‘anything but electric’ mentality.

My preference would be synthetic petrol and bin diesel but that’s pretty wishful thinking I suspect.

And if hydrogen was on the tipping point of going mainstream, then it would be anything but hydrogen!

A few statements:

The cars cost too much.
They’re only for the rich.
You can only buy them new or nearly new.
Residuals are unknown, I could lose my shirt.
The technology isn’t yet mature.
The cost of repairs is too high.
You have to lug around extra weight.
The range is woeful.
There are hardly any refueling points.
Refuelling compromises long journeys.
They rely heavily on expensive technology.
They’re unnecessarily complex.
They require precious metals to make.
Child labour is exploited.
Corrupt governments/individuals benefit.
Materials/parts circumnavigate the globe.
It’s dangerous when accidents happen.
Emergency services aren’t equipped.
Main dealers don’t have a clue how to fix.
It still relies on fossil fuels to produce.
The government will eventually tax it.
It’s not the panacea people think it is.

I could go on. What do these statements relate to EVs, hydrogen fuelled vehicles, or any alternative propulsion?

 

[Deleted member 159894]

And if hydrogen was on the tipping point of going mainstream, then it would be anything but hydrogen!

A few statements:

The cars cost too much.
They’re only for the rich.
You can only buy them new or nearly new.
Residuals are unknown, I could lose my shirt.
The technology isn’t yet mature.
The cost of repairs is too high.
You have to lug around extra weight.
The range is woeful.
There are hardly any refueling points.
Refuelling compromises long journeys.
They rely heavily on expensive technology.
They’re unnecessarily complex.
They require precious metals to make.
Child labour is exploited.
Corrupt governments/individuals benefit.
Materials/parts circumnavigate the globe.
It’s dangerous when accidents happen.
Emergency services aren’t equipped.
Main dealers don’t have a clue how to fix.
It still relies on fossil fuels to produce.
The government will eventually tax it.
It’s not the panacea people think it is.

I could go on. What do these statements relate to EVs, hydrogen fuelled vehicles, or any alternative propulsion?

Shame there’s not a double like option.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Shame there’s not a double like option.

Unfortunately the second like removes the first like

 

[Deleted member 159894]

Unfortunately the second like removes the first like

So it does

 

[Tonye]

Shame there’s not a double like option.

+1

 

[Tonye]

Shame there’s not a double like option.

+2

 

[Tonye]

+ 3

 

[Tonye]

Shame there’s not a double like

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[Bobby Dazzler]

And if hydrogen was on the tipping point of going mainstream, then it would be anything but hydrogen!

A few statements:

The cars cost too much.
They’re only for the rich.
You can only buy them new or nearly new.
Residuals are unknown, I could lose my shirt.
The technology isn’t yet mature.
The cost of repairs is too high.
You have to lug around extra weight.
The range is woeful.
There are hardly any refueling points.
Refuelling compromises long journeys.
They rely heavily on expensive technology.
They’re unnecessarily complex.
They require precious metals to make.
Child labour is exploited.
Corrupt governments/individuals benefit.
Materials/parts circumnavigate the globe.
It’s dangerous when accidents happen.
Emergency services aren’t equipped.
Main dealers don’t have a clue how to fix.
It still relies on fossil fuels to produce.
The government will eventually tax it.
It’s not the panacea people think it is.

I could go on. What do these statements relate to EVs, hydrogen fuelled vehicles, or any alternative propulsion?

It’s now conclusive, EVs and hydrogen powered cars are both rubbish.

I have just checked and it turns out that hydrogen powered cars also fail the industry standard test outlined in this post.

EQC Range problem or is it me...... | Electric Mercedes models

 

[Jibbajabba]

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[merc07]

So much for lower oil prices, Sainsbury's in WSM put their diesel up another 4p last night...
Normally packed, only 4 cars there, hopefully they might figure....

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

So much for lower oil prices, Sainsbury's in WSM put their diesel up another 4p last night...
Normally packed, only 4 cars there, hopefully they might figure....

Maybe they have a policy of passing on costs as and when they materialise for them rather than when the commodity prices change.

Ironically if they do, then your post may be criticising them for not profiteering which many accuse oil companies and filling stations of.

 

[poormansporsche]

So much for lower oil prices, Sainsbury's in WSM put their diesel up another 4p last night...
Normally packed, only 4 cars there, hopefully they might figure....

I've never seen Sainsbury's 40p a litre more than other local petrol stations though

 

[Jibbajabba]

Yea Esso here was literally 40p more a litre than Sainsbury's .. Shame Sainsbury's doesn't have 99 RON - that's just around the corner of me lol ..

 

[merc07]

Maybe they have a policy of passing on costs as and when they materialise for them rather than when the commodity prices change.

Ironically if they do, then your post may be criticising them for not profiteering which many accuse oil companies and filling stations of.

That's one way of looking at it I guess..

But more likely they found out that Asda had ran out completely...

 

[Fastcar155]

Hi , The laws of supply and demand apply.

It's not that long ago that petrol was £1.00 litre !!

 

[Spider10]

What decade was that?

 

[Rich764089]

What decade was that?

March 2020 believe it or not!