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Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric (replaces old Eagle F1 and GSD3)

mb240

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<div class="bbWrapper">Hi,<br /> <br /> I am wondering if anyone here has any experience of the new Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric tyres. They are the replacement tyre for the old GSD-3 and older Eagle F1.<br /> <br /> I was/am running Pilot Sport 2's, which have been good although expensive. However, on looking at replacements now, it appears that this new Eagle F1 Asymmetric is the best to get all around, despite being cheaper than the Pilot Sport 2s (which were ranked highly when I changed the car's shoes last summer).<br /> <br /> Evo Magazine's tyre round up:<br /> <a href="http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre-test.htm" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre-test.htm</a><br /> <br /> They appear considerably superior to the Pilot Sport 2s, and everything else for that matter. Anyone here running these new Goodyears? It seems they and the older GSD-3s are popular with the M3 drivers on their forums (!). <br /> <br /> (this change has been precipitated by roadworks ripping my front left and rear left tyres on the useless roads in the west of ireland, so I need a new set all around despite only 9k on the rears and 12k on the fronts).</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">No experience of the new tyre but I always rated the F1 very highly. Given what you say about the Irish roads, isn't the fact that the new Goodyears are cheaper than the quality alternatives a major factor.<br /> <br /> Unless the roads improve, you're going to be facing yet another change in 9-12k.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Again, no experience of the new tyre but I was a fan of the F1 and F1 GS-D3, both of which were excellent value. <br /> <br /> I once read that the V tread pattern could lead to a greater tendancy to tramline though.<br /> <br /> I'm interested to hear how these fair.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="robert.saunders" data-source="post: 512870" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=512870" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-512870">robert.saunders said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Love the F1 but agree re: tram-lining, it's awful for that. Grip, as you would therefore expect, excellent. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I used to have an Omega MV6 which ran on 235/45 Michelin Pilot Sports and tramlined like nothing on earth. Swopped the Michelins for Goodyear F1 and the problem disappeared. So my experience of them would seem to be the opposite of yours.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I have Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas on my CLK55. Before that, I had 2 sets of Pirelli P Zeros Rossos .. the rears generally lasted about 10k miles.<br /> <br /> The VUS has now done about 10k miles on the rears, and it still has about 2/3rds of the thread. It doesn't tramline either. VUS rock!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="DieselE" data-source="post: 512926" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=512926" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-512926">DieselE said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I used to have an Omega MV6 which ran on 235/45 Michelin Pilot Sports and tramlined like nothing on earth. Swopped the Michelins for Goodyear F1 and the problem disappeared. So my experience of them would seem to be the opposite of yours. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Very interesting. Is the Omega RWD? Don't know if that has any bearing on it (I run the F1 on the FWD Mondeo, which is very torque-heavy)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">The Omega is indeed RWD.<br /> <br /> A car will tend to tramline more as the tyres wear, so if the tread is very low, simply fitting new tyres should improve tramlining.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="DieselE" data-source="post: 512830" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=512830" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-512830">DieselE said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> No experience of the new tyre but I always rated the F1 very highly. Given what you say about the Irish roads, isn't the fact that the new Goodyears are cheaper than the quality alternatives a major factor.<br /> <br /> Unless the roads improve, you're going to be facing yet another change in 9-12k. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Well it's not so much that roads will improve it's that my job will (thankfully) be moving me back to Dublin in June after 10 months down here, so I only have a short while left on the crumbling dirt tracks in the west.<br /> <br /> Price isn't so much an issue with me as getting something that is quality. Michelin's are maybe the Sony of the tyre world.<br /> <br /> Anyway, they are ordered from <a href="http://www.camskill.co.uk" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">www.camskill.co.uk</a> and I should have them by the end of the week. Need to go find a local fitter now.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="C240Sport97" data-source="post: 512935" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=512935" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-512935">C240Sport97 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I have Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas on my CLK55. Before that, I had 2 sets of Pirelli P Zeros Rossos .. the rears generally lasted about 10k miles.<br /> <br /> The VUS has now done about 10k miles on the rears, and it still has about 2/3rds of the thread. It doesn't tramline either. VUS rock! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> <br /> Everytime I've read a tyre test lately, the Vredesteins seem to beat all the big names, usually cheaper too. A few of the Subaru owners swear by the Ultrac Sessantas or even the Ultrac itself. I've got the Wintrac Xtremes on now, brilliant tyres. I will be looking for Sessantas for summer tyres next time I change.<br /> <br /> Russ</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Bobby Dazzler" data-source="post: 512969" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=512969" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-512969">Bobby Dazzler said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The Omega is indeed RWD.<br /> <br /> A car will tend to tramline more as the tyres wear, so if the tread is very low, simply fitting new tyres should improve tramlining. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Fair point. But I had tramlining with the Omega over two sets of Michelin Pilot Sports. The Omega I had was the final model and when it came out Vauxhall claimed the suspension had been optimised around Michelin Pilot Sports. I never found out what it was like on worn Goodyear F1 as I bought my current E Class.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="DieselE" data-source="post: 513226" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=513226" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-513226">DieselE said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Fair point. But I had tramlining with the Omega over two sets of Michelin Pilot Sports. The Omega I had was the final model and when it came out Vauxhall claimed the suspension had been optimised around Michelin Pilot Sports. I never found out what it was like on worn Goodyear F1 as I bought my current E Class.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Great cars the Omega. Loved ours (very last of the pre-facelift). <br /> <br /> Father-in-law loved them so much he bought the company - no that was the Remmington bloke - but he did buy two!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="mb240" data-source="post: 512756" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=512756" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-512756">mb240 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi,<br /> <br /> I am wondering if anyone here has any experience of the new Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric tyres. They are the replacement tyre for the old GSD-3 and older Eagle F1.<br /> <br /> I was/am running Pilot Sport 2's, which have been good although expensive. However, on looking at replacements now, it appears that this new Eagle F1 Asymmetric is the best to get all around, despite being cheaper than the Pilot Sport 2s (which were ranked highly when I changed the car's shoes last summer).<br /> <br /> Evo Magazine's tyre round up:<br /> <a href="http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre-test.htm" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2007-evo-tyre-test.htm</a><br /> <br /> They appear considerably superior to the Pilot Sport 2s, and everything else for that matter. Anyone here running these new Goodyears? It seems they and the older GSD-3s are popular with the M3 drivers on their forums (!). <br /> <br /> (this change has been precipitated by roadworks ripping my front left and rear left tyres on the useless roads in the west of ireland, so I need a new set all around despite only 9k on the rears and 12k on the fronts). </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> I'm running on these tyres now and loving them <img src="/styles/mbclub/smilies/slayer.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rock:" title="Slayer :rock:" data-shortname=":rock:" /> <br /> <br /> <br /> They replaced my previous Goodyear F1 GS D3's which had proved to be a very good tyre, but after nearly 3 years and several sets of these I was ready for a change and had considered trying either bridgestone or dunlops as a replacement,<br /> I decided to go online to get a rough idea of prices when I noticed this new tyre from goodyear, I liked the tread pattern, the price was about the same as the GS D3's ( on my c32 it worked out about £100 per corner ) and the reviews it recieved were all very reassuring so I thought I'd give them a try.<br /> I'd definitely recomend this tyre to anyone and personally feel that its superior to the already capable GS D3 in both wet and dry handling, is quieter and will most likely last longer too</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I got the four new F1 Asymmetrics on, and they are a clear improvement on the PS2s. Road noise is definitely reduced (most obvious and first difference). <br /> <br /> The second thing is that grip in corners is very noticeably improved over my older PS2s (which were not in bad condition at 9k). The car seems to handle in turns much more responsively and it seems to suit both the weight of the car better as well. The steering feels a lot better for some reason (the camber on the front is quite significant compared to the rears and the top of the tyres is just under the arch - as low as possible without rubbing) - so maybe the thread pattern suits this set up better. Certainly feels a lot better and I'd definitely recommend them over the PS2s (and previous Continental whatevers!)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I'm also on the lookout for a change in tyres but what I can't understand is why the Goodyears were not featured in the autoexpress test ?<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/213177/tyre_test.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/213177/tyre_test.html</a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I've also moved from Pilot Sports (not 2s) to Asymmetrics and prefer them. Probably not as much dry grip but far better in the wet.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="desilva" data-source="post: 518023" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=518023" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-518023">desilva said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I'm also on the lookout for a change in tyres but what I can't understand is why the Goodyears were not featured in the autoexpress test ?<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/213177/tyre_test.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/213177/tyre_test.html</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> That test is definitely not a performance tyre test. Some are winter tyres (Uniroyal Rainsport, Goodyear Hydragrip). There is no Pilot Sport (a regular in performance tests for a good few years). They use the Vredestein Sportrac3 as opposed to the performance Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta, etc., .</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="mb240" data-source="post: 518136" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=518136" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-518136">mb240 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> That test is definitely not a performance tyre test. Some are winter tyres (Uniroyal Rainsport, Goodyear Hydragrip). There is no Pilot Sport (a regular in performance tests for a good few years). They use the Vredestein Sportrac3 as opposed to the performance Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta, etc., . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> But the Continental is there.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="mb240" data-source="post: 518136" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=518136" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-518136">mb240 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> That test is definitely not a performance tyre test. Some are winter tyres (Uniroyal Rainsport, Goodyear Hydragrip). There is no Pilot Sport (a regular in performance tests for a good few years). They use the Vredestein Sportrac3 as opposed to the performance Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta, etc., . </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> <br /> Rainsports &amp; Hydragrips are not winter tyres.<br /> The Sessanta is a newish tyre and would not have been out when the tests were done.<br /> <br /> Russ</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Well that's foiled that idea then! I thought those Hydragrips were winter tyres. I would alos have thought that the Rainsports (Uniroyals) were winter tyres. My CLK55 actually had those on briefly when I got it, and they are possibly the worst tyre I ever drove on.<br /> <br /> Well, there are plenty of other reviews on the web, they can't test everything I suppose!</div>
 
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