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Help with Golf

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Its Golf as in VW and not a good walk spoilt. Ok sorry its not Mercedes, but it is German and is owned by the future Mrs Bag were I daft enough to ever ask. (Which I am not by the way, so lets just say were good friends eh?)

Anyhow, maybes people on hear can help so here goes.

a 2ltr petrol Golf Mk 4 (04) 5dr. And yes, its Primer!

We have developed a squeaking which appears to come from the offside rear. Its very noticable from outside, but sounds from the inside as a kind of wheelbarrow squeak if you can imagine what I mean.

Annoyingly it seems to be intermitant and doesnt make the noise on command. You cannot replicate the noise by driving style, such as leaving the handbrake off and coasting downhill, or by pulling away with right or left lock on. It doesn't always occur, even when wet or after washing, and will make this noise after a considerable journey when really warm, and can often make the same noise after being stood overnight either outside or when its comes out of the garage. it does seem that it doesn't make this noise at speeds above 3rd gear if you see what i mean, altho that may in part be due to the noise being overcome by road, wind and tyre noise but lets says its noticiable at low speeds.

If you were stood on the pavement you can quite clearly hear this noise as the car goes past, when it makes it.

Lowering the windows on the both sides suggests its coming from the offiside rear and is definatley and exterior noise which is loud enough to be heard inside the cabin. When its been to the dealer, and this has been mentioned, of course it didnt do it with them, and when we have taken them for a spin, it refuses to play up until we have gone our own way.

Am still searching the net for information, and a few friends have had the same, or similar noises, which appears to be cured with new brake linings, pads etc, this car has rear disks, but after a few months or so, they get the noise back. All golfs mk4's but not 2ltrs.

Is it just rear brake pad wear? can it be, and this is what I think, a sticking caliper or could it be something like the handbrake cable, suspension arms or something mechy like that rubbing another bit? Does it appear to be the start of something which could eventually get more serious? and therefore need sorting, or could it be the anti squealy bits not doing their job or the anti squeal grease wearing off? or something simple and not to worry about as such.

it sounds on both left and right turns.

Anybody any ideas that may help shed some light on this and what a possible cause, cure is?

I realise you cannot diagnose from a description so I have tried to fill in as many blanks that can be, in the hope that someone can either recognise the fault through experince, or offer all possible causes and how to test for them, so we can eventually eliminate them which, by Sherlocks deductive powers, leave the one remeaning, no matter how elementary, clue as the culprit!

Have asked this on a VW forum too, so any info I get I will post up here if it offers help to anyone with the same or similar problems in the future.
 
My x has a Mk4 Golf and when I last did the brakes they squealed for a while... I coated the backs and edges of the pads with copper grease and all noise went away.... It may just be a build up of dust or something like that... It doesnt sound terminal... pop into your local drive in and get them to blow the brakes through with an airline or something...
 
Its really hard to guess at what a noise can be without hearing it! From the sounds of it i would suggest checking the bottom hub bush for play and possible the shock absorber. These 2 item can make a noise when hot, especially after driving for a considerable time.

I'm suffering from a similar tyoe of noise on my W202, am waiting for it to get a bit worse so its easier to diagnose!
 
Bushes? I gather from my mechanic, who replaced them on my now-departed VR6 at 42k, that they are the Achilles heel of the Golf -- they all go, and they go much earlier than they should, because of poor design I guess. If that is the problem, you might consider using not the VW part but some of these polyurethane ones, which I have seen highly recommended:

http://www.powerflex.co.uk/
http://www.powerflex.co.uk/faq.asp#1

Copper grease on brake components? I wouldn't dare.
 
Not read about this issue, but I highly recommend you visit www.uk-mkivs.net

I agree with the statement above, we had replace a few bushes at just gone 40K miles, which is abit early really. They are hard on them apparently.
 
As a general comment you should be able to distinguish between suspension noise and noise coming from rotating" things"--ie brakes or bearings cos the frequency of the noise should vary directly with road speed. If its fairly constant then its suspension IMHO.
 
It's the rear bushes for sure, my Mum's golf has exactly same problem.

Common wear point on the Mk4's.
 
its rotational. it doesnt squeakwhen still no matter how much you attempt to compress the rear suspension. it only makes the noise on the move.

its has also only done 14,000miles. you wouldnt have thought it would wear these bits out that quick. Did Mercedes make these bits for VW:devil:

It is very difficult to describe to people and thanks so far for the advice given that people have to make it based on my description. problem is that when you take someone out in it. it doesnt do it!

best thing is, both MB forums have yeilded results for a none MB car. and the VW forum has had no replies!

that tells you something.

And for those interested. this forum has the most response and so far, all similar. so i think we may be on the right track a bit.

One piece if advice I have got off t'other one is to check that nothing is in the rear caliper, like road grit. having a check wont break anything i dont think.
 
Copper grease is a common grease for the backs and edges of pads... Not on the pad material DOH!!!
 

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