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How best to reduce ride height

del320

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Last October, I had the rear suspension rebuilt - here - and the difference has been remarkable WRT to ride quality, handling and the absence of assorted rattles and clunks.

Unfortunately the predicted settling down has not happened - a combination of new subframe bushes and the fact that back in January 2014, the now defunct indie, Deutschmarque, fitted a replacement pair of random rear springs - make unknown!

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Ideally, the chrome strip should be broadly in line with the rim - NOT the top of the tyre.

So, how do I acquire the correct springs, confident that they will restore the correct ride height?
 
Would your VIN allow the Mercedes Parts department to determine the correct part as originally fitted ?

Either that or a hacksaw and a Druk
 
These are the EPC tables for 124.060/1/2/6 (with and without 'sports undercarriage') rear springs. Choice of pad colour seems to depend on whether your selected spring is delivered with red paint marks or blue paint marks. Hopefully, one of the several 124 expert members can clarify.



You could just try replacing the existing pad with a thinner one as they come in 8mm, 13mm and 18mm thicknesses.
 

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Back in the day Mercedes standard springs were supplied in two sizes Blue long spring and red short spring .[think I got that right] This was in addition to the colour coding for the spring rate. Most rear springs from factory seemed to be the "short" variety with three pip 18mm pads. So the higher ride height could be down a longer spring or a thicker spring pad. Hopefully its the latter as the ride height can be adjusted with thinner spring pads. Remember also the "lever effect" of the spring arm - with the spring inboard of the suspension hub the effect of a shortened spring+pad height reduction is amplified- in other words the car is lowered more than the change in pad thickness would imply.
 
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Several bags of sand in the boot and footwells? Will aide off the line traction also. :D
 
In so far as keeping MB parts on the car it's a combination of springs and pads del. However if you find the car is too high even on No 1 pads and short springs you can look to the red spring option that grober mentioned. For EACH PART NUMBER on the 124 springs there are TWO options, red or blue. Red is short blue is long. I put some reds in the back of the cabbie and almost need to go to a No 2 pad now, so they do make a difference.

You cannot order a red or blue spring, you can only order by part number. BUT the nice man at Irvine in California "found" a pair of reds for me.


You can also trim down the front spring if the spring pad combos aren't giving you what you want] 1/4 turn cut = approx 16 mm on a sportline spring. BUT be careful up front not to alter your ball point position beyond the range given as this is changed by lowering and alters your toe out on turns that can be felt be a very slight hesitant turn in and an immediate slight correction on the wheel when it does turn in. BPP is adjusted on the driver’s side using the splines on the output steering box shaft. Typically you run out of adjustment here.

The BPP measuring tool is very hard to find but it is a standard MB tool that techs should use when doing wheel alignments – they never do though!


Also make sure you have enough front camber adjustment to remove the excess –ve camber you tend to get when lowering. 1Deg 20 mins is about as deep as I want to go camber wise at the front otherwise you start getting into tyre wear issues.


At the rear you may find the camber gets over 2 Degrees which is when you want to start thinking about rear camber adjustment. Kmac do a spring link hole shifting bush, Speedway Motors in the US do an adjustable camber arm with forged ends not machined from bar stock. But probably the best solution is to plug the original camber arm with a pressfit solid bush into the Al boss and redrill the holes at 1.5 to 3.5 mm increased centres. You could also fit the adjustables, do the alignment at 1Deg 30 mins, remove the adjustables, measure the hole centres and drill the plugged originals at the new dimension, about 301 mm IIRC. That way you do not run the risk of nonstandard parts on a car that the Insurance co may be concerned with.

If you need to adjust the camber you will also need to adjust the rear toe which is adjustable from Factory, but again make sure you do not lower so much that you run out of rear toe adjustment.


AFAIK AMG and Braubus do not alter the rear camber because they use larger dia wheels which also fill the arches better and make the car appear to be lower.

I think a 1/2" drop on standard shocks will be fine, any more than that and you need to start thinking about shock stroke position and perhaps springs and shocks to match each other.

Bilstien do lowering kits, going this way I'd start with a small lowering to see how you like it...
 
I think they were a little higher looking in the rear than the front too from factory del...
 

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Thanks for that Lawrence! Some say you're a wit - they're half right... :p

So, I took myself to MB Coldstream where I enjoyed the high life as experienced by all Forum members with a PCP.

Whilst sipping a very excellent coffee from the MB branded machine, Craig, a most helpful chap from parts dept., spent 20 minutes tracing the correct springs and pads which will be delivered on Wednesday. We chatted away for another half hour. (No poor farmers in the Borders)

Car going in next week to H R Motors for MOT, service and new springs - fingers crossed...
 
Good on you del, you may well be amazed at the difference to the feel of the car just a new set of springs make, Why and how that works I am yet to fully understand - creep I think they call it.

It may be pedantic but maybe talk to them about breaking loose & re-torquing the bolts that hold the main suspension bushes after the car settles to its new ride height. Stops twisting them to destruction in service...
 
Thanks for that Lawrence! Some say you're a wit - they're half right... :p

I refuse to be drawn into a battle of wits with a defenceless man ....:D

Hope you get things sorted out - the car still looks pretty good, so I can understand why you want to hang on to it. I really much prefer these older 'classy' styled MB's to the more modern offerings which look (to me anyway) about as subtle as a 1960's 'Rockola' jukebox.....
 

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