grober
MB Master
Latest Autoexpress survey would indicate poor take up of the technology will postpone any change over? Manufacturers steer clear of digital radio | News | Auto Express
finisterre
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good
changing 500 million radios was a crime against the planet.
changing 500 million radios was a crime against the planet.
As above. It is very good,however,at what cost to Joe public, not just motorists but people who could not afford to change. What would become of all the old ones?
finisterre
Active Member
I would weep as I dropped my Tivoli radio in the bin.
It's a fascist regime.
this one
It's a fascist regime.
this one
@MARK
Active Member
I believe in the rest of europe it has already died. It's only the UK that is keeping the thing alive.
jonthetourist
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Location: Buxton
Car: Vito, Z4
Bloody fascist regime. Forcing you to live in Buxton and drive a Z4. It's worse than Zimbabwe.
johny5_uk
Active Member
Oh bugger, are you guys saying I have a Betamax in my car now?
ndps
New Member
Certainly there is a need to move away from analogue formats to much more bandwidth efficient digital signals, however I agree they could have gone for a higher bitrate and better codec than the MP2 DAB uses. Actually when directly comparing FM to DAB in my car there isnt a huge audible difference in quality, yet functionally it is a lot better with the program information, music track information, and obviously the consistent lack of noise. I haven't had any signal strength issues yet but its still early days with the car.
Aswall
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God I hope not, I haven't listened to any non-DAB radio for many years, both in the car and at home!
I would weep as I dropped my Tivoli radio in the bin.
It's a fascist regime.
this one
I like the look of that. Is it the model one?
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I'd have to lose my £2 Bush radio-cassette 
I'd also have to lose my 2 Roberts radios from the 60s and my car's top-of-the-range (in the mid 90s at least?) Blaupunkt radio.
I hope DAB's scrapped - the scrambled signal (at least with white noise on the radio you can still understand what is being said when the signal is bad) and the fact most cars don't have a DAB radio fitted, and the MP2 quality all mean it should go.
I'd also have to lose my 2 Roberts radios from the 60s and my car's top-of-the-range (in the mid 90s at least?) Blaupunkt radio.
I hope DAB's scrapped - the scrambled signal (at least with white noise on the radio you can still understand what is being said when the signal is bad) and the fact most cars don't have a DAB radio fitted, and the MP2 quality all mean it should go.
ironsheik
Active Member
I prefere the DAB to FM/AM in my car.. only ever cuts out for a few seconds when i'm drivingon the motorway between the hills to Leeds.. Its much clearer and louder, more specialist stations from other parts of the country, etc etc.. I hope its not going anywhere anytime soon...
prprandall51
MB Enthusiast
Yes, if only radio manufacturers would fit some control-like thing to boost the noise level of the FM signal so it was just like DAB....
If they did, they could shape the control like a big round twisty thing and label it - ooh, I don't know - maybe "Volume".
ironsheik
Active Member
If they did, they could shape the control like a big round twisty thing and label it - ooh, I don't know - maybe "Volume".
Very Good..
finisterre
Active Member
Model 2
the Mercedes of kitchen radios.
the Mercedes of kitchen radios.
Thanks for that,hope its rust proof.
I WANT ONE.
I WANT ONE.
Well , I for one would not agree with the ' need for more bandwidth efficient digital formats ' - there is already far too much rubbish being broadcast .
It is far preferable to have a few channels outputting QUALITY rather than hundreds broadcasting rubbish ; the situation ought to be amply clear after what has happened with digital TV , never was a truer word written than in the lyric '57 channels and there's nothing on' .
Even with FM , which is a tried and proven medium , after 40 years we still have large areas of the country with poor or no reception ; it is likely to put us years back in terms of coverage if we lose the established network and wait for transmitters to be converted/rolled out .
I certainly won't be replacing my expensive head units in my newer cars with DAB ones , nor would I put something out of place in the Ponton . I also doubt that add-on converters which remodulate DAB onto an FM frequency will be any better - I have yet to find one that works satisfactorily for 'Walkmans' , iPods etc and I have tried many in different vehicles .
At home I have a number of expensive FM tuners in various hi-fi systems and , although radio tends to be background listening these days , I would not tolerate the drop in quality typical of DAB broadcasting I have heard in shops etc . Even after 25 years , CD audio still has not entirely caught up with Vinyl LP , so DAB radio is likely to remain rubbish for the forseeable future - especially if the amount of compression used means that quantity will continue to take precedence over quality .
I certainly will shed no tears over another failed format .
Absolutely !!! ^^^ What he said
Digital is only ever going to be a sample of what is actually there and low sampling rates emphasise this shortcoming. High compression rates make it worse. Crappy compression algorithms make it worse still. The quicker DAB is consigned to the scrap heap the better.
Digital is only ever going to be a sample of what is actually there and low sampling rates emphasise this shortcoming. High compression rates make it worse. Crappy compression algorithms make it worse still. The quicker DAB is consigned to the scrap heap the better.
MUGGY
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This is partly true but DAB has been relaunched in Germany where sales of DAB units appear to rising. Also seems to be growing in Switzerland.