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OK, as some of you may know, I took the plunge about 4 years ago and bought myself a fully restored MGB. After four years of happy roof down cheap motoring (OK - a couple of breakdowns, but hey, it's an MGB, right? And anyway, I've had electronic ignition fitted now...) I'm beginning to feel I've scratched that itch now, and perhaps its time for a change of toy.

Key criteria are that it must be interesting, open top, and useable. and I don't want to lose a fortune in depreciation - the B has pretty much held its value, and I like that! Ideally I would also be able to get classic car insurance - think that means it has to be at least 15 years old, but not sure whether some insurers do that at 10 years?

The car will probably only do 2-3000 miles pa tops, so I don't really care about fuel costs, and I am prepared to accept occasional chunky repair bills (these cars were expensive when new), but equally I want it to be regularly useable, not an ornament, so I'm not interested in something fragile or that will spend an inordinate amount of time at the workshop.

So - to vehicles. I'm thinking through SLs. I'm not a great fan of the R129 styling, so am torn between the R107 and the R230...the latter appeals a lot in terms of the car itself, and the possibilty of playing with a 3-500bhp+ V8. R107 is obviously a different kind of proposition, but more likely to fit the classic car insurance and low/no depreciation model.

What does the collective think? I'm probably thinking in terms of adding a few grand to the value of the B, so budget would be mid to upper teens. Have early 230 values bottomed out yet? Should I leave it for another year or two? Is there anything else (124 cabrio?) that I should be considering? No set time to keep the car, but realistically I'd have it for at least 4-5 years, maybe longer if I'm enjoying it and it's holding its value.

And before we all get too excited about spending my money, I should add that it took years of deliberation before I finally bought the B!
 
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350 V8 auto T-top matching numbers car. For Sale (1973) on Car And Classic UK [C492856]

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I would be distinctly nervous about an early R230, they are of the period when MB build quality was off the scale shocking and are at that stage of their life when many components are going to need sorting.

R107s are a known quantity, I'm not sure dynamically they'll add much to an MGB apart from lovely V8s, but be seriously careful about rust.

W124 convertibles look to me to have the greatest upside in the long term and in 320 form offer very relaxed cruising. The number on the market is rather small and I would be wary again about the age point - many W124s have lasted a long time on original components, and talking regularly to Nick Froome of W124 virtually all the cars he looks at are in need of a lot of work.

Outside this, US cars offer to me anyway the greatest bang and reliability for the bucks, a Mustang straight six drop head would be in your budget.

Your budget is likely to find you at that crossover between early restorations and still original cars. My experience of restorations is pretty rotten - chose very carefully!

Ps Classic cars rarely depreciate, but some prices at the moment look toppy. Second, the amount you spend on them you rarely get back. Or, to put it another way, they depreciate a lot, but all your maintenance money keeps its value. You pays your money etc.
 
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XJS? Wafty and very appealing.
 
XJS? Wafty and very appealing.

Nooooo. Seriously pocket draining. B-I-L has one. :fail

Pity you don't fancy the R129 as they're the best value of anything at the moment. Late model facelift look the best imho.
R107 comfy and a bit of a cruiser but as Charles said you have to be very wary of rust. The worst is usually where you cant see or get at it and there's no guarantee that a later car will be any better although post 86 have better spec engines and boxes .
 
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A 107 would be on my list of considerations, but as Charles Morgan advised, a proper inspection will be required! You could buy a really nice one from a specialist but when you come to sell it privately you wont get your money back as they are already pretty much top money. I don't see 107's can go much higher unless Pagoda's go up more and drag 107's up with them.

My suggestion for a fun but sound investment, assuming you can live with the looks, is the Lotus Elan. Isuzu engine, fine handling and plenty of room for appreciation!
 
Just to add - don't be put off newer cars when it comes to insurance. You can get classic policies on cars from five years and older now.

My CLK55 is a 2001 ('51) and has been on classic for nearly five years now since I bought it. Might help if you're considering other cars but worried about that aspect.

How about a CLK55 cabriolet - possibly no more expensive in repairs than a W124 320 (wiring looms/ECU/head gaskets etc etc)

I like the idea of an SL55 but there's obviously potential big bills on those too. But £100k new cars are never going to be cheap to run at ~ 10+ years old.
 
Good to see you back Lee :thumb:
 
One of these!


 

If you go down the XK8 route, get the 4.2 version. The Jaguar beancounters saved 0.000340 pence per car by insisting on plastic cam chain tensioners. These eventually fail with predictable results. There were updates with less dodgy plastic before they finally did what they should have done in the first place and used metal ones, which were carried forward into the 4.2.
 
Thanks guys - some really good thoughts there. Not sure about the stag - feel like I've done the british 60's/70's thing a bit with the MG. And I'm not a big fan of american muscle. Need to look further into CLKs, and in fairness I probably ought to revisit the R129. Can't believe I hadn't thought of jags or porsches...XK8 needs a look, and despite warnings, so does the XJS, which is a car I grew up drooling over. V12....hmmm.....if I do get seriously tempted in that direction I'll be posting back so someone can give me a slap. And thanks for the tips on classic insurance - had no idea it could start so young.

The TVR is spectacular, but the original brief was for something that won't spend a lot of time in the workshop, rather than the other way round, and I'm not brave enough for the ownership experience of one of those. Scott_F - where on earth did you find my picture?...
 
The XJS doesn't have to be a V12, the 4 litre straight six was supposed to be a decent engine.
 
Scotty boy your way off ....;)

Joking aside PXW you would more likely have more garage time with the Porsche if a watercooled jobby...loads of niggles & big problems far more than the Tiv.
 
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Scott_F - where on earth did you find my picture?...

My bedside cabinet of course.
 

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