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Let Battle Commence. Foam Cannon test

LeeJV

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Let the Battle commence!!!, how can the entry level cannon compare with the big hitter?IMG_20210304_143906_862.jpgIMG_20210304_143906_862.jpgIMG_20210304_143906_862.jpg
In2detailing lance
Autobrite lance
Detail Driven lance
MTM Hydro

They all vary in total output, but the build quality goes to Detail Driven and MTM

Today was just testing the different flow rates between them all, as I use a cannon for Snow foam, decon and shampoo, it needs to be calculated correctly IMO, as PIR/ EDR ratios differ depending on set ups. I shall be doing a full test on foam, pattern, adjustment etc over the weekend

We'll find out how these perform this weekend

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Just go to the £5 car wash ;)
 
Back again guys

So for this test I have used BH Autofaom, known for its lack of foam compared to others

All have been used at a PIR of 2% diluted according to thier flow rates to show how well they perform in foaming

So 1st up
The cheapest lance
In2detailing lance £15
It's a basic cannon, similar in build and look to the autobrite cannon, adjustment is very poor, produces a very low amount of foam untill the JW builds pressure, but even then it's not consistent.
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Next up
Autobrite lance around £35.
Same look as the previous cannon, only better built, good amount of foam and adjustable fan width.
Works well straight out of the box.
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Detail Driven foam lance £30

Great build quality, wide mouth bottle so it's not top heavy like the rest so makes it easier mixing products.
Has a fantastic amount of adjustments including horizontal and vertical spray patterns.
Produces huge amount of foam
All in a fantastic piece of kit

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Last up
MTM Hyrdo Pf22. £50
Good build quality same as the DD lance, although doesn't have a wide mouth bottle,
Pa adjustment is good, adjustable fan vertical and horizontal, although the fan width is very limited compared with the DD lance.
Produces good foam consistency.

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The clear winner as for me is the DD lance
Highest flow rate
More adjustable
Fantastic build quality
Wide mouth bottle
Value for money
And IMO out performs the MTM
 
Not being funny Lee but are you just an enthusiast like most of us or are you some sort of cleaning product influencer? 🤣🤣🤣
yome basically the mrs hintch of the Mercedes cleaning world.
 
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I use a budget foam Lance about £15. It’s absolutely fine, with Bilt Hamber Auto Foam
 
I use the worx cordless power washer comes with a snow foam lance ideal really as no need for outside tap or power point ,its not powerful enough to do any damage either 👍
 
Please provide a summary with your choice or conclusion.

All the YouTube "detailers" do tests with tons of products but are too afraid to give an opinion. e.g. "There you go folks, you've seen me spraying water on (differently treated) panels and close ups of water beading and sheeting. Which do you think is best. Comment below (finger pointing dowm) and check out my links (finger pointing up)."
 
Paulhick said:
Not being funny Lee but are you just an enthusiast like most of us or are you some sort of cleaning product influencer? 🤣🤣🤣
yome basically the mrs hintch of the Mercedes cleaning world.
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Haha 🤣😉
Just an average Jo buddy, an enthusiast like all of us
 
I've written this out again, for those that didn't get it
Let the Battle commence!!!, how can the entry level cannon compare with the big hitter.
In2detailing lance
Autobrite lance
Detail Driven lance
MTM Hydro

They all vary in total output, but the build quality goes to Detail Driven and MTM

Ok guys here's the results on my testing, I know the reviews are going to subject to your own personal preferences and JW system. So I'm prepared for for some stick 😉

My test was done with the Direct Hoses All Black 9

For this test I have used BH Autofaom, known for its lack of foam compared to others, hence why I used it in order to get a fair comparison of foam

All have been used at a PIR of 2% diluted according to thier flow rates to show how well they perform in foaming. All have new gauze filters and have been thoroughly cleaned through.

So 1st up
The cheapest lance
In2detailing lance £15
It's a basic cannon, similar in build and look to the autobrite cannon, adjustment is very poor, produces a very low amount of foam untill the JW builds pressure, but even then it's not consistent.
The PA adjuster is quite stiff, not smooth like the rest.

Next up the Autobrite direct.£30
Looks similar the in2detailing lance., although has a better build quality and internal parts. Gives a good amount of foam, consistently from the start has good fan width, Pa adjuster is smooth, although the fan adjuster is a little tight

The Detail Driven lance. £29.
This has a fantastic build quality, wide mouth bottle, not top heavy like all the others.
foam consistency is very good and much thicker than the other 2. Pa adjustment is very smooth, fan width is the widest of all 4, both vertically and horizontally. The fan width is so good that I could cover the entire side of a car in 1 pass.

Lastly the MTM Pf22.
Again very good build quality, the highest priced here at;£50.
Has very good foam level again consistent with the DD lance, vertical and horizontal spray pattern. The fan width is not as wide as the DD lance, the video was done on its widest setting.
The Pa adjuster is very nice, it clicks on each setting unlike the other 3.

Overall my personal preference has to go with the DD lance, its priced extremely well at £30. Has all the benefits of the MTM, but better fan width, and the wide mouth bottle.
For me it's the clear winner in this test.
If your looking for a replacement lance and want good quality then look no further.

www.detaildrivenstore.co.uk

Snow Foam Lance

The DD snow foam lance is the perfect pairing with DD Snow foam. The wide mouth and extra wide base make for easy filling and the best part, it wont fall over! For years snow foam lances have been poorly designed with their tall design and long narrow necks they are notorious for falling over...
www.detaildrivenstore.co.uk www.detaildrivenstore.co.uk
 
Great test fella, up until purchasing the Detail Driven lance (which i love) I've had 3 or 4 Amazon or eBay cheap lances but slowly as pre-washing grew more popular or the past few years and the price of the cheaper lances started creeping up I went for something bit better and to be honest it was worth it.

The DD lance for me is a great piece of kit and it eliminates the one thing i have always hated about SF cannons which is the width of the neck of the bottle that pretty guarantees me spilling snow foam over the bottle then have the awkward moment of trying to screw a slippery snow foam bottle back together. The spray width on it is very versatile which makes cleaning my smaller car or the larger work vans much easier.

I have often wondered about the MTM lance and why it carries the price tag, i know it's made of stainless steel parts but as far as SF cannons go that was it seemed to offer, seeing the fan width of it though i'm quite glad i never took the plunge into buying one as I would have probably thought it was broken out of the box.

I know fan width might not seem like a deal breaker for most but what it does allow me to do is get closer to the car without getting splattered, i don't have much space around my car where i clean it (few feet at most) so shooting a jet at it up close would prove very messy not only that when it comes to wheel arches i always adjust the fan width to suit to gain better coverage like when cleaning larger vehicles i wouldn't want to stand there looking like a wally trying to put a fire out, it's much more comfortable to go width a larger fan to cover better and use less product.

It's nice to see tests like this as i feel it helps follow enthusiasts avoid investing in products that are as great as they are made out to be.
 
Cheers buddy
I bought that MTM lance last week , curiosity got the better of me, after doing the test I sold it within 10mins as I was so disappointed with it.

Got most of money back, then bought another couple of DD Lance's.😆

My wife laughs at me for being so obsessive 😊
 
Lee, love your posts, they are very interesting. I tend to pick little bits from various detailing posts & tweek what I am happy with. Probably a bit lazy with the snowfoam as I put in about a third of snowfoam to two thirds water, give a fairly thick coverage which I am happy with. Cars are never too dirty, washed weekly & more if the weather is bad, so its overkill from me. The cars are all ceramic coated (Gtechniq) anyway so I powerwash pre-rinse (different schools of thought on that), snowfoam, powerwash off, another snowfoam with a different product (why, I don't know), clean with noodle type cleaner, powerwash then when its still wet spray with Meguirs quick detailer, spread it on with microfibre & dry off with microfibre towel. You are probably going noooooooo!!!. Keep up your posts👍👍👍
 
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Lee, love your posts, they are very interesting. I tend to pick little bits from various detailing posts & tweek what I am happy with. Probably a bit lazy with the snowfoam as I put in about a third of snowfoam to two thirds water, give a fairly thick coverage which I am happy with. Cars are never too dirty, washed weekly & more if the weather is bad, so its overkill from me. The cars are all ceramic coated (Gtechniq) anyway so I powerwash pre-rinse (different schools of thought on that), snowfoam, powerwash off, another snowfoam with a different product (why, I don't know), clean with noodle type cleaner, powerwash then when its still wet spray with Meguirs quick detailer, spread it on with microfibre & dry off with microfibre towel. You are probably going noooooooo!!!. Keep up your posts👍👍👍
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Good work buddy, no such thing as overkill in detailing dude.
My boy question however is
What MG QD are you using as a drying aid
Some have too much wax in them, so can mask the coating itself, it's good to use a topper on ceramic coating, as it helps prevent water spotting, most QD will wash off a full coating anyway as it cant actually bond to it so it's not really a problem.
 
Lee, I am using Meguirs Last Touch Spray Detailer which I am happy with. I have tried their Ceramic Wax with mixed views. Sometimes it was fine, others it left marks which require fairly hard rubbing. The last touch is simply spray on wipe off. On the S63 takes around 5-10 mins, probably nearer 5mins.
 
LeeJV said:
Back again guys

So for this test I have used BH Autofaom, known for its lack of foam compared to others

All have been used at a PIR of 2% diluted according to thier flow rates to show how well they perform in foaming

So 1st up
The cheapest lance
In2detailing lance £15
It's a basic cannon, similar in build and look to the autobrite cannon, adjustment is very poor, produces a very low amount of foam untill the JW builds pressure, but even then it's not consistent.
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Next up
Autobrite lance around £35.
Same look as the previous cannon, only better built, good amount of foam and adjustable fan width.
Works well straight out of the box.
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Detail Driven foam lance £30

Great build quality, wide mouth bottle so it's not top heavy like the rest so makes it easier mixing products.
Has a fantastic amount of adjustments including horizontal and vertical spray patterns.
Produces huge amount of foam
All in a fantastic piece of kit

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Last up
MTM Hyrdo Pf22. £50
Good build quality same as the DD lance, although doesn't have a wide mouth bottle,
Pa adjustment is good, adjustable fan vertical and horizontal, although the fan width is very limited compared with the DD lance.
Produces good foam consistency.

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The clear winner as for me is the DD lance
Highest flow rate
More adjustable
Fantastic build quality
Wide mouth bottle
Value for money
And IMO out performs the MTM
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Always good advice Lee and I have subscribed to the YouTube channel. Looking forward to seeing more in the future. 😁
 
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