grober
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I like the use of the "collective" noun team in their official statement regarding their chief designer not some oily spanner wielding grunt in the pit crew. "McLaren became aware [today] that a senior member of its technical organisation was the subject of a Ferrari investigation regarding the receipt of technical information," the team said last night. "The team has learnt that this individual had personally received a package of technical information from a Ferrari employee at the end of April. Whilst McLaren has no involvement in the matter and condemns such actions, we will fully cooperate with any investigation".
The phrase "caught with fingers in the till" comes to mind.
I like the use of the "collective" noun team in their official statement regarding their chief designer not some oily spanner wielding grunt in the pit crew. "McLaren became aware [today] that a senior member of its technical organisation was the subject of a Ferrari investigation regarding the receipt of technical information," the team said last night. "The team has learnt that this individual had personally received a package of technical information from a Ferrari employee at the end of April. Whilst McLaren has no involvement in the matter and condemns such actions, we will fully cooperate with any investigation".
The phrase "caught with fingers in the till" comes to mind.
nigel cross
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Not looking good. More issues at the Ferrari camp same spy that put that white powder in the petrol tanks?
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glojo
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I thought this was all spin regarding the contamination?
When manufacturing, or cleaning these tanks, would they use a powder? ANY aaditive would surely show up in the FIA tests?
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I fear it's smoke and mirrors, the michelin tyre width affair [2003?] springing neatly to mind when Ferrari were last under pressure.
The last Ferrari espionage story was about Toyota stealing a design - didn't help them did it? Or when Sauber ran a quasi-Ferrari chassis....
Hopefully McLaren will not be affected by this - it's hard enough to maintain any real competition in this 'sport' without political [or criminal] manipulation, but I suppose it mirrors real life
The last Ferrari espionage story was about Toyota stealing a design - didn't help them did it? Or when Sauber ran a quasi-Ferrari chassis....
Hopefully McLaren will not be affected by this - it's hard enough to maintain any real competition in this 'sport' without political [or criminal] manipulation, but I suppose it mirrors real life
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I take it that the designer was under pressure also. The need to stay ahead by having real or fake information about the other team.
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my thoughts first of all are, that McLaren have acted correctly regarding thier employee. He is suspeneded while an investigation takes place and this does not infer he is guilty.
Ferrari did not do this in the initial phase, even though it was them who reported thier own employee after thier own initial and internal investigation. This surely, is not what a decent employer would do?
McLaren wrote a book called "Teamwork". Ron Dennis goes to great lenghts to make sure everyone on the team is, and feels part of a the team. They win together and lose together. Strenght in numbers. That is actually the sign of a good boss. If only more managers adopted some of his ways, that suits their business, things like the royal mail wouldn't be having the idiotic troubles they have now.
However, when a Pepsi employee got hold of the CocaCola secret, and passed it on to thier top brass, they suspended that individual, gave it back, sealed up, and unread, to CocaCola, who confirmed it was genuine and removed the employee who had passed it in, in turn Pepsicola fired the member of staff and took them to court and won. I am surpised that McLaren did not have a similar policy.
Doing your homework by photographing in detail, the oppositions car, looking at it on the gird etc, is one thing, but being passed the info by the back door is cheating. The fact they appear not to have known abiut this suggests, either, it really is a dirty tricks campaign instigated by Ferrari, and if it is they want throwing out of F1 for doing so, or someone has really made a bad serious of mistakes and will be made to suffer.
It could be however, that Ferrari want a good look at the McLaren and this is a easy way of getting it. All McLaren have to do is allow Ferrari designers access to the car for an an hour of so and that will clear McLaren.
And in 3 races time, McLaren will be able top declare that the Ferrari is a copy of their car and that they should be thrown out of F1 for cheating.
Ferrari do appear to have shot themselves in the foot again I think.
Max does his washing in public and so does Ferrari, they are the best of mates together and neither like McLaren.
Lets see which side Bernie falls down on. And I bet its Hamilton. Which is a bad omen for Jean Todt, as Ferrari, as we all aware, is bigger than one man.
He's off, in come MS or RB as top dog. Or FIAT sell to FORD which means thats the last you will see of Ferrari!!!!
then again, maybe we havent got the full picture yet?
Ferrari did not do this in the initial phase, even though it was them who reported thier own employee after thier own initial and internal investigation. This surely, is not what a decent employer would do?
McLaren wrote a book called "Teamwork". Ron Dennis goes to great lenghts to make sure everyone on the team is, and feels part of a the team. They win together and lose together. Strenght in numbers. That is actually the sign of a good boss. If only more managers adopted some of his ways, that suits their business, things like the royal mail wouldn't be having the idiotic troubles they have now.
However, when a Pepsi employee got hold of the CocaCola secret, and passed it on to thier top brass, they suspended that individual, gave it back, sealed up, and unread, to CocaCola, who confirmed it was genuine and removed the employee who had passed it in, in turn Pepsicola fired the member of staff and took them to court and won. I am surpised that McLaren did not have a similar policy.
Doing your homework by photographing in detail, the oppositions car, looking at it on the gird etc, is one thing, but being passed the info by the back door is cheating. The fact they appear not to have known abiut this suggests, either, it really is a dirty tricks campaign instigated by Ferrari, and if it is they want throwing out of F1 for doing so, or someone has really made a bad serious of mistakes and will be made to suffer.
It could be however, that Ferrari want a good look at the McLaren and this is a easy way of getting it. All McLaren have to do is allow Ferrari designers access to the car for an an hour of so and that will clear McLaren.
And in 3 races time, McLaren will be able top declare that the Ferrari is a copy of their car and that they should be thrown out of F1 for cheating.
Ferrari do appear to have shot themselves in the foot again I think.
Max does his washing in public and so does Ferrari, they are the best of mates together and neither like McLaren.
Lets see which side Bernie falls down on. And I bet its Hamilton. Which is a bad omen for Jean Todt, as Ferrari, as we all aware, is bigger than one man.
He's off, in come MS or RB as top dog. Or FIAT sell to FORD which means thats the last you will see of Ferrari!!!!
then again, maybe we havent got the full picture yet?
