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Only skimmed through that add, but it looks cheap enough for the mileage if it all stacks up?
 
My thoughts too, but the ad says 'low tax' and it isn't, so what else might be iffy? Is there any problem with a code reader like my iCarsoft, or for that matter a UK STAR, reading data on a Japanese market car? The mileage is only a third the mileage of mine. I've looked up BIMTA, and the mileage should have been verified before the car was purchased in Japan, so that should be OK, but how many hours might it have spent sitting in a Tokyo traffic jam.? Will the instruments read in English or Japanese :dk: ? Why did the first UK owner get rid of it so quickly?

And does it have some sort of slide-out load area floor? It looks as though it does.
 
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Looks a good clean car and mileage for its age
 
My thoughts too, but the ad says 'low tax' and it isn't, so what else might be iffy? Is there any problem with a code reader like my iCarsoft, or for that matter a UK STAR, reading data on a Japanese market car? The mileage is only a third the mileage of mine. I've looked up BIMTA, and the mileage should have been verified before the car was purchased in Japan, so that should be OK, but how many hours might it have spent sitting in a Tokyo traffic jam.? Will the instruments read in English or Japanese :dk: ? Why did the first UK owner get rid of it so quickly?

And does it have some sort of slide-out load area floor? It looks as though it does.
I’m no expert on Jap imports, but I do recall some were lower VED due to some loophole to do with the date or registration and emissions data etc - i.e. £400ish vs. £760 or whatever it is nowadays. Seem to remember an E-class AMG (probably a ‘63) popped up on here in the past with same sort of thing noted.
 
I've been doing a bit of Googling, and I gather Japanese domestic market cars are usually much better underneath than UK cars of the same age, because the Japanese don't salt their roads.

I see it has a Panamericana grille, presumably aftermarket, and I quite like it. The driver's seat bolster looks absolutely perfect on an image on the firm's website (Straightouttajapan.co.uk... :rolleyes:), so I guess the mileage will be correct.

Will, the lower VED applies to used vehicles first registered before 23 March 2006; that one was in March 2007. £760 is the current rate, same as my current one.
 
Will, the lower VED applies to used vehicles first registered before 23 March 2006; that one was in March 2007. £760 is the current rate, same as my current one.
I’m aware of that. It’s based on CO2 emissions and the date of registration.

You might want to check this one though - it was only registered with the DVLA in November 2024 and there are no emissions data for CO2 showing for it, hence I don’t think you’ll be correct - £760 is for band ‘M’ (over 255g/km) - this one is recorded as 0 g/km…

The pre-2006 thing is just a cap to cover vehicles registered between 2001-2006, this was made in 2007 but only registered last year.

Could be a loophole, but I’ve seen this before with Jap imports.
 
I think you're right. Hard to find the info, nothing anywhere on Gov.uk that I could find, but eventually I found, on a Pistonheads thread on importing cars from Japan, that with no CO2 figure recorded the pre-2001 VED rates apply, so £360 rather than £760. That would be a nice little bonus if I bought it. :thumb:
 
I think you're right. Hard to find the info, nothing anywhere on Gov.uk that I could find, but eventually I found, on a Pistonheads thread on importing cars from Japan, that with no CO2 figure recorded the pre-2001 VED rates apply, so £360 rather than £760. That would be a nice little bonus if I bought it. :thumb:

If no CO2 is recorded it may be cheap to tax but may have ULEZ issues though. Probably not insurmountable but may be a faff ......
 
Not an AMG, but my wife ran a 'navy blue' ML of similar vintage from '08 to 2014 over 70k miles with no issues at all. It remains one of her very favourite cars.
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But the 'common' 320 CDI can not compete with the AMG economy :dk:
 
I've been doing a bit of Googling, and I gather Japanese domestic market cars are usually much better underneath than UK cars of the same age, because the Japanese don't salt their roads.

I see it has a Panamericana grille, presumably aftermarket, and I quite like it. The driver's seat bolster looks absolutely perfect on an image on the firm's website (Straightouttajapan.co.uk... :rolleyes:), so I guess the mileage will be correct.

Will, the lower VED applies to used vehicles first registered before 23 March 2006; that one was in March 2007. £760 is the current rate, same as my current one.
Re the salt on roads thing :
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Underneath a Japanese import 2007 1Series BMW 😲
Bear in mind that no rust proofing is generally applied to Japanese motors, so it's an idea to have some sort of protection applied.
Imports will have kmh speedo and radio frequencies are different. A
family member bought a Japanese Volvo V70. Speedo and radio swapped for UK spec by the importers. He's had a few issues getting a spare key for it; again the immobiliser frequencies are different. He found a specialist to sort that. Other than that no problems. It certainly is in better condition than a similar car that has lived in the UK. It even came with the standard Japanese emergency kit complete with a pair of road flares!
 
Lovely and rare colour combination, and incredibly low mileages it has been tinkered with, albeit possibly cosmetics only - aftermarket Panamericana grille, red valve caps and calipers painted red.

Now you’ve had a UK market ML 63 AMG for a while you know what a good one feels like, so perhaps worth a test drive to see how it compares to yours. I know absolutely nothing about Japanese imports though.
 
Re the salt on roads thing :
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Underneath a Japanese import 2007 1Series BMW 😲
Bear in mind that no rust proofing is generally applied to Japanese motors, so it's an idea to have some sort of protection applied.
Imports will have kmh speedo and radio frequencies are different. A
family member bought a Japanese Volvo V70. Speedo and radio swapped for UK spec by the importers. He's had a few issues getting a spare key for it; again the immobiliser frequencies are different. He found a specialist to sort that. Other than that no problems. It certainly is in better condition than a similar car that has lived in the UK. It even came with the standard Japanese emergency kit complete with a pair of road flares!
Son imported a '91 NSX from Japan, it still had the factory chalk marks all over the floorpans and frames. He did apply some rust proofing after he got it to deal with North West weather. I wonder whether there are differences in components on a JDM ML though.
 
I’m sure the 164 ML would have the same rustproofing and under seal applied from the factory regardless of whether it was exported to Japan or the UK.
 
I’m sure the 164 ML would have the same rustproofing and under seal applied from the factory regardless of whether it was exported to Japan or the UK.
Not sure - Volvo certainly don't underseal JDM cars.
 
Son imported a '91 NSX from Japan, it still had the factory chalk marks all over the floorpans and frames. He did apply some rust proofing after he got it to deal with North West weather. I wonder whether there are differences in components on a JDM ML though.
Emissions stuff is probably different. Software can be too. There may be some physical differences; the Volvo I mentioned has different front foglights to Euro spec cars, for example.
 
All will become clear with a quick look underneath. I had a quote to clean and coat the underside my ML and it was £600 by someone with a good reputation. I dare say others will do it for less.
 
If no CO2 is recorded it may be cheap to tax but may have ULEZ issues though. Probably not insurmountable but may be a faff ......
London ULEZ no charge. Cities on the Continent requiring a Clean Air tag, as in France, could be a problem, though, but I won't be doing any Continental motoring holidays.

Emissions stuff is probably different. Software can be too. There may be some physical differences; the Volvo I mentioned has different front foglights to Euro spec cars, for example.
It's already passed two UK MoTs. The engine is a 156.980, just like my in black one, which is on over 100K and passed the MoT emissions standard easily, so I'm not worried about the emissions.

No service history, because no digital service book, but from what I've seen about JDM cars, it will have been impeccable. Just had a full service here, including the plugs, and a pair of OE front struts because one was weeping a touch. No new speedo needed; the existing kph speedo needle now indicates mph. (Apparently UK cars can only show MPH, but Rest of World cars can show either). Cool; never had a car with a 320 mph speedo before.... :D

It does have factory underseal.

It's being sold from the Straightouttajapan site; same owner, same premises, same company, but First Choice buys to order, not at Japanese auction. Six month warranty at no extra cost, and as he'd already taken a deposit, but the sale fell through, he'll reduce the asking price by that deposit.

Did I buy it? It's Tanzanite Blue with a light interior; do you really need to ask....?

Deposit (refundable) paid, pick it up on Thursday, subject to a satisfactory test drive.

I've got a good feeling about this one; I don't think it will be the usual see it, drive it, like it, buy it, bring it home, ring Terry Gates and start throwing money at it scenario...
 
London ULEZ no charge. Cities on the Continent requiring a Clean Air tag, as in France, could be a problem, though, but I won't be doing any Continental motoring holidays.
Isn’t there a document like a CofC from Mercedes that covers this?

A moot point if you’re not using it abroad but surely the papers from factory will be more relevant to the French than what the UK’s DVLA have entered manually?

I don’t understand how or why the zero emissions thing isn’t picked up automatically though. Cylinder capacity is slightly wrong, too - although not as bad as when I had my CLK55 with the M113. They had that down as being fifty four litres..! :D
 

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