http://www.mobilegazette.com/blackberry-bold-9000-08x05x12.htm
Does anyone know when any UK operators will have this ? (I need one).....
Does anyone know when any UK operators will have this ? (I need one).....
New Blackberry 9000
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Taken from here http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39029453,49296895,00.htm around mid june it says.
I would like one too, my pearl is pretty cool, but this looks awesome.
I would like one too, my pearl is pretty cool, but this looks awesome.
Sp!ke
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LOL (you need one?) 
I'm not yet convinced by this model. Why do you need wifi or even 3G on a Blackberry? I currently have a seamless all you can eat global GPRS tarrif and my emails arrive on my handset before they arrive on my PC so speed isnt an issue. Sure I could use WIFI at home or work but why would I when I have a fully functional PC to use instead. Elsewhere, WIFI costs big money and is a pain to setup (remember GPRS is seamless).
If you turn on 3G or WIFI, battery life is reduced from around a week to half a day, so you wont be doing this often unless you have a power source handy.
The keys of this handset are closer together than the Curve series and the rubber feel is rather nasty, A backward step.
The screen resolution looks good but the rest is smoke an mirrors IMHO.
I'm not yet convinced by this model. Why do you need wifi or even 3G on a Blackberry? I currently have a seamless all you can eat global GPRS tarrif and my emails arrive on my handset before they arrive on my PC so speed isnt an issue. Sure I could use WIFI at home or work but why would I when I have a fully functional PC to use instead. Elsewhere, WIFI costs big money and is a pain to setup (remember GPRS is seamless).
If you turn on 3G or WIFI, battery life is reduced from around a week to half a day, so you wont be doing this often unless you have a power source handy.
The keys of this handset are closer together than the Curve series and the rubber feel is rather nasty, A backward step.
The screen resolution looks good but the rest is smoke an mirrors IMHO.
It would be a boon if we had 3G or WiFI enabled blackberries!
The company I work for relies heavily on the Blackberry for general out of office / not at desk email manipulation, the extra speed permitted by 3G (probably about 1.4Mbps) would allow quick downloading of attachments, etc.
Also note that we use our blackberries as modems too, so if I am out of the office and I am called out, provided i have both my laptop and blackberry, I can easily give my laptop a 'net connection wherever I am, again this is sped up by the 3G connection.
With regard to WiFi, this is useful in a LCS (Least Cost Routing) solution. So, say for example you arrive in the office, rather than using the mobile network, the blackberry senses the corporate WiFi is in range and calls switch to this (with some jiggery pokery in the backgroud to handle the call diversion) but either way it saves costs. We already have some inhouse solutions which do overseas calls and utilise company bandwidth instead of the mobile network which is quite successful.
Finally, from a remote worker perspective, using the wifi means that the blackberry can act as your 'desk phone' wherever you are. Blackberry senses your wireless network, logs on, registers remotely with the company network servers, and calls are routed to your blackberry (virtually) toll free.
Sp!ke
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I have seen a few SIP style telecoms offerings but most are having difficulties with this working on the Blackberry stack. Its coming for sure but I havnt seen anything worthy of adopting yet. If you know of one that has it nailed I'd be interested to hear more.
Having also done a study on VOIP recently, we found the cost of increasing our company data network to be able to handle VOIP and cost of the infrastructure to support a huge increase in wireless connections cost more than the cost of the telephone/mobile calls at current rates. Certainly when you include this cost coupled with the extra support costs, there were little savings to be made.
Data over the Blackberry is an advantage I agree but the traffic speed is crippled unlike a dedicated data card (O2 restricts it to under 200kb) and there seems to be little incentive offered by the telecoms providers to multi task a Blackberry handset over having a separate data plan for a dedicated data card. This means you can also use the blackberry for calls while online which you cant if you are using it as a modem.
Attachment downloads are not noticeably quicker over 3G on a blackberry as I think there are other influences such as the RIM network and the internal Blackberry/mail server infrastructure that play a big part.
As I said earlier, there is much talk of fancy uses for WIFI and 3G on Blackberrys but as yet I've not seen any fully thought out technology that can take advantage of it properly. Its coming for sure but I'm not sure this handset will witness this technology.
Having also done a study on VOIP recently, we found the cost of increasing our company data network to be able to handle VOIP and cost of the infrastructure to support a huge increase in wireless connections cost more than the cost of the telephone/mobile calls at current rates. Certainly when you include this cost coupled with the extra support costs, there were little savings to be made.
Data over the Blackberry is an advantage I agree but the traffic speed is crippled unlike a dedicated data card (O2 restricts it to under 200kb) and there seems to be little incentive offered by the telecoms providers to multi task a Blackberry handset over having a separate data plan for a dedicated data card. This means you can also use the blackberry for calls while online which you cant if you are using it as a modem.
Attachment downloads are not noticeably quicker over 3G on a blackberry as I think there are other influences such as the RIM network and the internal Blackberry/mail server infrastructure that play a big part.
As I said earlier, there is much talk of fancy uses for WIFI and 3G on Blackberrys but as yet I've not seen any fully thought out technology that can take advantage of it properly. Its coming for sure but I'm not sure this handset will witness this technology.
Ill be getting it then when my 18 months are up! I have the 8800 which i love..
I need one because it's shiny, and like all blokes, I like to have gadets.....and the OS looks good. And my trusty 8707g is getting a bit battered. Because the day has a Y in it. Because the Apple Iphone thingy is rubbish (but looks good). Because I can't find a Windows Mobile 6.1 device that I like...Errr..........
Honest answer !
Honest answer !
Geezer
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Screen appears to be a bit small. I love my Curve 8310 which is much better than my previous 8800. More toys!! 
Because some of us only want to carry one device, turn on 3g and plug into your laptop and you have a 3g tethered modem, and it should charge the 'berry at the same time. It's what's stopped me jumping to Blackberry, despite me recommending them to clients, because occasionally I use 3G data for remote desktop mostly, and for that I need a proper screen and keyboard and as quick a connection as I can get. My SE W880i does this very well, I'll be getting the new Blackberry as soon as it's available for me!
What network are you on - Voda and O2 seem to lock them so you can't upgrade the OS ?
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